Tuesday, January 5, 2010

creditors-in-commerce digest for 01/05/10

Group: http://groups.google.com/group/creditors-in-commerce/topics

    Caitibird <silver4homes@gmail.com> Jan 04 10:41PM -0800 ^
     
    Hi all,
    Any help locating Ryun's method for Money orders would be greatly
    appreciated.
    Thanks,
    Caitlin

     

    Michael Dobbins <frozin1234@gmail.com> Jan 04 10:51PM -0800 ^
     
    I see a lot of websites that use this case to prove there is a
    fictitious entity and government is fiction and man needs a fiction in
    order to associate with government. Here is the court case most of
    these sites quote;
     
    (S.C.R. 1795, Penhallow vs. Doan's Administrators, 3 U.S. 54; 1 L.Ed.
    57; 3 Dall. 54, Supreme Court of the United States 1795)
     
    "In as much as every government is an artificial person, an
    abstraction, and a creature of the mind only, a government can
    interface only with other artificial persons. The imaginary, having
    neither actuality nor substance, is foreclosed from creating and
    attaining parity with the tangible. The legal manifestation of this is
    that no government, as well as any law, agency, aspect, court, etc.
    can concern itself with anything other than corporate, artificial
    persons and the contracts between them."
     
    I pulled up the court case here http://anonym.to/?http://supreme.justia.com/us/3/54/case.html
    and can not find this at all. Was it removed?
     
    I do understand that the statute of person is defined as a corporation
    and that a maxim of law is inclusion of one is the exclusion of all
    others.. But is there actual court cases that can actually be searched
    that says something to the extent of what this court case says? Right
    now i'm under the impression that most of those freedom sites that are
    using this court case is using a made up opinion in order to
    manipulate its readers.

     

    Colin <goldenears69@yahoo.com> Jan 05 01:22AM -0800 ^
     
    Well that Supreme Court Registry (I believe is the full name) is very
    old. So it may not have been uploaded. You can take that citation to
    a good law library and ask the librarian to help you find it.
     
    But if you consider what we know about law and commerce from so many
    other sources, this teaching is just as true as can be even if that
    particular citation is not real. But I suspect it is. That is a full
    citation with all the reference abbreviations intact.
     
    Colin
     
    csandm <garyesilverman@gmail.com> Jan 04 11:11PM -0800 ^
     
    I tried to download this at the link
    and was told that the limit was reached
     
    How can I get a copy of this conference call?
    Gary
     

     

 Topic: Doug Riddle
    ParadigmShifter <earthsaverproducts@gmail.com> Jan 04 10:35PM -0800 ^
     
    Here is what Dave Mack responded to me with:
     
    You call the number 724-444-7444 and then put in the pin 54318#. You
    want to be muted when you are not talking and to do that you press *6
    and when you want to talk you press *6 again to unmute. If you want
    to "raise your hand" to talk you press *8.
     
    All there is to it.
     
    Dave
     
     
    Then I went to the call and heard lots of great stuff to do with A4V -
    I feel much more confident after this call.
    Next week Monday Dave's call is said to have Jerry Kane on and lots
    of "great new stuff" on Foreclosure - I think he said new and
    exciting stuff to do with foreclosure from Tim Turner? will be
    presented.
    This Monday night call is said to be archived at talk shoe with the
    PIN used to access it? Does that sound right?
    ParadigmShifter

     

    GregTheDude <gregsuite-forum@yahoo.com> Jan 04 09:42PM -0800 ^
     
    Hi
     
    How can one determine whether a particular company or lending
    institution can beneficially process an A4V?
    In other words, what are the criteria whereby they can access this
    trust/credit?
     
    Furthermore, what are typical mistakes to avoid in this process?
     
    Cheerio -   
    GregTheDude <gregsuite-forum@yahoo.com> Jan 04 09:34PM -0800 ^
     
    This Q may provide a long, but very useful answer for us:
     
    Would Kevin kindly list all the prerequisites that one needs before &
    during filing of the 1099A & OID?
     
    In other words, things like:
    - which public benefits to cancel/avoid and for what period of time
    before filing (e.g. Unemployment benefits, etc)
    - which past things could cause a glitch (e.g. wrong type of bank
    account <interest bearing>, which banks may be uncooperative,
    particular past IRS problems, ...)
    - what are the obvious mistakes to avoid (preventing FF) on the
    1099 & subsequent 1040 forms
    - how to properly address the question of stating/figuring out the
    correct amounts (which would require painstaking calculations of an
    entire year's activity on a single account)
    - list any other common mistakes to avoid
     
    Cheerio
    GregTheDude
     

     

 Topic: Tax Question
    Ambientlght <tlquick44@gmail.com> Jan 04 07:11PM -0800 ^
     
    Hello,
    I am hoping someone can help me to resolve this issue, I will be
    recieving some of my funds from a union annunity fund soon and they
    want to tax me a 20% penalty tax for early withdrawl. Is there anyway
    around this? They say they are going to deduct it fom the check they
    issue before I even recieve it. I am hoping there is a form I can send
    along with my request for withdrawl form or something to stop them
    from deducting these fees.
    Any help is greatly appreciated,
    Tom
    Raymond <rayren98@gmail.com> Jan 04 08:36PM -0800 ^
     
    You can try changing your exemptions that you have on file with them
    before they issue your payment. This should alleviate some (if not
    all) of .the tax withholding from your check. Of course, when you file
    your tax return, it will come back to "bite you" if you don't have the
    necessary deductions to offset it.
    Ambientlght <tlquick44@gmail.com> Jan 04 09:01PM -0800 ^
     
    But the question is can they legally tax me if the funds are not part
    of nor intended for use in " Trade or Business"
    Ambientlght <tlquick44@gmail.com> Jan 04 09:22PM -0800 ^
     
    The only way a goverment can lawfully aquire a right over your private
    property without just compensation mandated by the 5th amendment to
    the Constitution is by your own consent. (which I believe I may have
    granted them by using my ss# to open the account in the first place)
     
    Now the funds are in an account under my SS# which I put in when I
    signed up with the union, and in order to with drawl the funds I must
    provide my SS#. But there must be some form or letter I can write to
    state that I will be responsable for the taxes if there are any and
    they must remit the withdrawl to me in full.
     
    Thanks Ray for the advise but I don't think it matters if I have 1 or
    10 deductions they are still going to tax it at 20%. The forms have no
    area on them to submit a deduction.
     
    Any other suggestions?
     

     

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