Thursday, January 28, 2010

digest for Creditors-in-commerce 01-28-2010


  • A4V Success [3 Updates]
  • WARNING WARNING!! [1 Update]
  • International Notary Public Required [1 Update]
  • Extra Money Opportunities [2 Updates]
  • Just curious : ) [1 Update]
  • jury summons response [1 Update]
  • gary jones [1 Update]
  • Newbie needs advice [1 Update]
  • IT'S ON [1 Update]
  • Can Anyone Comment on the Feb 2009 1099 OID IRS Bulletin Notice [1 Update]
  • NEW-YORK-CITY any 1? below is an entry i wrote, Now time jurisdiction- universal legal technology http://blog.creditorology.com/ [1 Update]
  • Help with education about contract needed [1 Update]
Topic: A4V Success
    salvinorin 33 Jan 28 06:20AM -0500 ^

    FYI...

    ---------- Forwarded message ----------
    From: salvinorin 33
    Date: Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 6:00 AM
    Subject: Re: A4V Success
    To: treasurydepartment.1@gmail.com
    Cc: angelicnutrition@aol.com


    Thanks.

    Did CHASE BP write you a letter regarding their decision? Did they charge
    you any penalty fees? Is this account still open? Did you inform Doug
    Riddle?


    On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 5:55 AM, Private Banking <

    salvinorin 33 Jan 28 06:21AM -0500 ^

    FYI... please read the enclosed conversation.

    ---------- Forwarded message ----------
    From: salvinorin 33
    Date: Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 6:00 AM
    Subject: Re: A4V Success
    To: treasurydepartment.1@gmail.com
    Cc: angelicnutrition@aol.com


    Thanks.

    Did CHASE BP write you a letter regarding their decision? Did they charge
    you any penalty fees? Is this account still open? Did you inform Doug
    Riddle?


    On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 5:55 AM, Private Banking <

Topic: WARNING WARNING!!
    googlegroupmember Jan 28 03:20AM -0800 ^

    would it be "cyber-forensically" possible to verify a list of people
    who come from other countries, who belong to CIC discussion group, and
    also credit wrench organazation site, in order to support CC/CIC claim
    of forgery of internet protocol addresses, thereby supporting a claim
    against owners of IPs in violation of Commercial Codes, CFR, and USC
    applicable ?

Topic: International Notary Public Required
    Dominic Jan 28 12:56AM -0800 ^

    Hi,

    I'm requiring the services of are International Notary Public to issue
    a certificate of dishonor and estoppel.
    My processes are complete. Apostile will also be required. Please
    email me privately.

    Thank you,
    Dominic

Topic: Extra Money Opportunities
    NewCreditor Jan 28 12:12AM -0800 ^

    I would say time is also closely associated with money. In the past,
    it usually represented how much time I had before I went broke. If
    you can trade your time to help others save time, i.e. help others to
    stop foreclosure on their home, help them deal with their debts,
    helping educate, fund beneficial projects etc. I think we should help
    others and the more we do the more we will realize that WE are the
    "money-value-wealth" and our greatest blessings are going to be the
    ones we share together.

    That being said, I don't agree with trading your time for free either
    and contracting for payment in lawful money should be acceptable. I
    am guessing we should always be able to purchase money of account with
    money of exchange. Just a suggestion, but I believe I do see and
    understand your question. How can we turn this into something
    practical that will be a mutual-financial-blessing and will help us
    acquire the real skills and relational resources we will need to
    accomplish large scale projects? (Well I added the "will help us
    acquire the real skills....." part as my personal question which I
    daily seek answers for.) And if we don't have large debts or
    extensive debt history or bad credit and want to start being a
    blessing today what can we do, do we need to wait until we figure out
    how to directly access the DTC account? How to fill out all the proper
    IRS-forms

    Fortunately, I have found some rubber-hits-the-road-type-answers that
    are starting to really change all the events in my life. Now that I
    am waking up, I realize my "time" is FAR more valuable than debt
    notes. Getting closer everyday, I am almost through every single
    audio on here (except calls of course) and I must say, it has only
    been 8 months or so but my life is shifting dramatically just because
    of listening to this stuff.

    NewCreditor Jan 28 12:19AM -0800 ^

    I will say one thing that I have run into already, beware of the
    people you want to help that just "expect" you to just obligate
    yourself to their disposal without any thought of honoring you.
    Sometimes you do every single thing in your power to bend your back
    over for someone and they just run you over. Be careful.

Topic: Just curious : )
    Bruce Jackson Jan 28 12:04AM -0800 ^

    --- On Thu, 1/28/10, Bruce Jackson wrote:


    From: Bruce Jackson
    Date: Thursday, January 28, 2010, 12:01 AM

    Things I'm wondering about;

    If every signature on every loan and every check and every credit card creates new money, how much money gets created in a year in the world?
    If so much money is being created, then wouldn't there have to be a system to reduce the amount of money in circulation at times to regulate the value.
    If the facts are on the moon, nothing can be proved, and we create our own reality, then is it more about being creative and helpful to each other?
    Is it possible that society could evolve at different rates, where some people would labor for pay, and others give and receive freely, and/or trade in any currency that their creative energy attracts?
    Enough for now, thanks for everyones willingness to help a stranger.
    Peace,
    Bruce

Topic: jury summons response
Topic: gary jones
    Raam T Jan 27 11:29PM -0800 ^

    I rarely speak negatively about people, but I personally know several people
    who he
    allegedly just deserted when the road got a bit bumpy. If my information is
    correct,
    he's an integrity-free danger and damage to this community.

    If this is not correct, Gary, please rebut or ask for specifics for you to
    rebut here.
    --
    Rasmus Raam Toerper

    Global Environmental Fuel Technology LLC
    yourgeft@gmail.com
    Direct: (310) 402-6235
    Office: 866-442-5557

    www.OmStar.com

    14761-G Franklin Avenue
    Tustin, CA 92780

    "We Make Going Green Profitable"

Topic: Newbie needs advice
    Max Kuzkin Jan 27 11:23PM -0800 ^

    Your too kind. Thank you

    On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 5:38 PM, Fathom Worldwide >>> > omission does not constitute a waiver of any and/or all intellectual
    >>> > property rights or reserved rights. UCC 1-308

    >>> > Notice to Principal is Notice to Agent / Notice to Agent is Notice to

    --
    PUBLIC NOTICE

Topic: IT'S ON
    Raam T Jan 27 11:19PM -0800 ^

    Hey fisherman, I trust you'll have a great group and mastermind! Just as a
    tip, if
    you give your posts a more descriptive title - especially for something so
    specific -
    you'll have much better chances finding your local brothers and sisters...

    --
    Rasmus Raam Toerper

    Global Environmental Fuel Technology LLC
    yourgeft@gmail.com
    Direct: (310) 402-6235
    Office: 866-442-5557

    www.OmStar.com

    14761-G Franklin Avenue
    Tustin, CA 92780

    "We Make Going Green Profitable"

Topic: Can Anyone Comment on the Feb 2009 1099 OID IRS Bulletin Notice
    curtycurt01 Jan 27 11:17PM -0800 ^

    Awww, another letter, with answers hidden within. Isis, if you
    understand the OID process, then you will see what the IRS is and
    isn't saying. I'm not a master at the OID process. Matter of fact
    after a few months of studying, I'm filing my 1st one. But let me take
    a crack at this for my own testing purposes. Please anyone correct me
    where I may off.

    In the 1st four points, 2 of the don't apply:
    * Form 2439, Notice to Shareholder of Undistributed Long-Term
    Capital Gains (PDF); or,
    * Other bogus financing instruments such as bonded promissory
    notes to make a false withholding claim.

    The next paragraph "Original issue discount is normally treated
    like..." tells you what to read. These are the same publications that
    should be read.

    The next set of bullet points say a lot...of what isn't done (maybe in
    the real scam but not the Creditor/sovereign use of the forms)
    -1st for all of the 1099s and 1040s the income on the 1040 should
    never be greater that the 1099. How could it be?
    -Having an amount = to amount on the 1040 will get you flagged anyway.
    -form 1120 is for corp income taxes. Not even apart of the process.
    -shouldn't use a 1041 (unless you know why) or a 2439: Notice to
    Shareholder...
    -After taxes the amount should be lower...34% lower. That's how much
    tax the IRS take out.
    -The last one is telling you that you better file your 1099A to back
    up your OID. Which is what you better do (unless you know why you're
    not).

    The rest is basic stuff. Mess up will hit you with a $5K fine offer.
    Report scams with 3949A. You should have a copy of that anyway for
    when banks don't shut down accounts when a 1099A is file a certain
    way.

    Anyone else care to take a crack at it or correct anything I may have
    messed up or don't full understand.

    But Isis, if you are concerned about this letter (actually the simple
    fact that you are asking the question) shows that you shouldn't be
    filing a 1099 anything. But those are my thoughts. Know for yourself.

Topic: NEW-YORK-CITY any 1? below is an entry i wrote, Now time jurisdiction- universal legal technology http://blog.creditorology.com/
    Rae396hz Jan 27 11:02PM -0800 ^

    For the misconception of justice, by which our government conveys,
    through the usage of legal fiction. Much too often, we find that
    authorized representatives of corporations, such as, police
    departments, and medical organizations, liability is relieved by the
    verdict that the accused was merely "doing their job". That the police
    was acting under the order of his or her warrant or probable cause, is
    what makes the agent free of liability. Or the medical or physical
    practitioner made an error in application of treatment.

    It is in the tense of declarations, and title, that hold the key to
    why persons are relieved of responsibility. When events are stated in
    past or future tense the information is fictional, either it has
    expired or has yet to occur. Fact can only be present.

    You were speeding, you will be sentenced 25 years to life. The
    question to ask is when am I sentenced to 25 years. Am i still
    speeding. When does the future become now? The future is always the
    future. Besides, who can actually dictate the future. And we know that
    the past can never become present!!

    You are no longer speeding, and you are not actually sentenced 25
    years to life. This is one description of the many forms of legal
    fiction. You may find that our laws are written in past or future
    tense, so when do we become liable to these laws if they never become
    present?

    Thou shalt not kill.

    Shalt is the present tense of shall, and should is the past tense of
    shall, therefore this law is actually law, because it is present. It
    is always now, in this moment, we shalt not kill.

    Understanding this concept is key to this technology of language and
    law, through which we could apply to our society.

    But, let us see what congress men think of this concept.

    In 1997, U. S. Rep. Meechan (Democrat, Mass.) made his main campaign
    issue about term limits. After election he wrote to the House Clerk:
    “Should I be elected to serve more than two additional terms in the U.
    S. House of Representatives, I hereby resign and direct you to remove
    my name permanently for the Roll of Members.” In 1999, Meechan
    announced that he would run again in 2000. Meechan’s aid announced
    that the letter wasn’t binding, because “Legally, you can’t resign
    from a future Congress.”

    Present tense is very important, since “the law is constantly
    speaking, at every moment.” Therefore the law is speaking right now,
    in the present tense. What, then, is the effect of a law written in
    the future tense? Future tense words are for depicting “actions not
    yet done.” Future tense wordings like shall place the law clearly
    into a future point in time. Incidently, the word to can also be
    construed as future tense. When a designated future point in time
    comes into the present tense, and at that point we read the same
    future-tense words again, the future is still in the future, not in
    this present time. The future is never to come into the present
    tense. The present and the future are mutually exclusive terms.
    Remember, the law is always speaking, and a future tense law always
    applies to the future.

    Since the law is presently speaking, and is speaking in the future
    tense, there is no law in the courts.


    We shalt study our language and law, I highly recommend studying
    Universal-Legal-technology which can be found on the link below the
    session numbered 9.

    http://groups.google.com/group/creditors-in-commerce/files

Topic: Help with education about contract needed
    David H Jan 27 10:22PM -0800 ^

    See attached file. It is from LawStudyGroup.com which also has a free
    course available in contract and other forms of law. I have not relationship
    to them, except that I signed up.