- Jerry Kane on AFV [2 Updates]
- The Extra Mile - (Creditor) Meditation from Anthony De Mello's "The Way to Love" [2 Updates]
- Becoming a Creditor: Window of opportunity will close: Meaning??? [4 Updates]
- Where Can One Find or Get a EIN For 4419 Application? [1 Update]
- How...? [3 Updates]
- I-9 The evolution of creditors? [1 Update]
- can my five and three year old become secured party creditors [1 Update]
- HAPPY NEW YEAR = ANYONE ELSE WANT A SIMPLE METHOD FOR ORGANIZING DOCUMENTS [1 Update]
Topic: Jerry Kane on AFV
- Donna Lee
Jerry Kane rocks
Just got off the phone with him. He's one of those amazing people who really thinks outside the box. He's a real credit to what we're trying to accomplish, and he really cares about people which seems fairly rare these days. Jerry Kane is definitely one of the top 3 that I advocate.
Donna Lee
www.NotaryPresenters.com
> I only got to about 20 minutes into the show so far, but thought you'd
> be interested:
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http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390706/direct/01/
- Procreator
I agree Donna, Jerry is the Bomb.
Topic: The Extra Mile - (Creditor) Meditation from Anthony De Mello's "The Way to Love"
- Raam
The thread below just inspired me to post one of the meditations from
a beautiful, short little book by Anthony De Mello, titled "The Way to
Love". I was inspired to post it to help us develop an attitude of
love and compassion towards even easy-to-hate people like the
Rothschild's mentioned in that thread, but also for its relevance for
walking the path of the creditor in general, hope you enjoy it...
here's the thread link
p.13 (just so happens...)
THE EXTRA MILE
"And if anyone would sue you and take your coat, let him have your
cloak as well. If a man in authority makes you go one mile, go with
him two miles." - Matthew 5:40-4l
If you take a look at the way you have been put together and the way
you function you will find that inside your head there is a whole
program, a set of demands about how the world should be, how you
should be and what you should want. Who is responsible for the
programming? Not you. It isn’t really you who decided even such basics
as your wants and desires and so called needs; your values, your
tastes, your attitudes. It was your parents, your society, your
culture, your religion, your past experiences who fed the operating
instructions into your computer. Now, however old you are or wherever
you go, your computer goes along with you and is active and operating
at each conscious moment of the day, imperiously insisting that its
demands be met by life, by people and by you. If the demands are met,
the computer allows you to be peaceful and happy. If they are not met,
even though it be through no fault of yours, the computer generates
negative emotions that cause you to suffer.
For instance, when other people don't live up to your computer's
expectations, it torments you with frustration or anger or bitterness.
Another instance: When things are not under your control or the future
is uncertain, your computer insists that you experience anxiety,
tension, worry. Then you expend a lot of energy coping with these
negative emotions. And you generally cope by expending more energy
trying to rearrange the world around you so that the demands of your
computer will be met. If that happens you will be granted a measure of
precarious peace; precarious because at any moment some trifle (a
delayed train, a tape recorder that doesn't work, a letter that
doesn't arrive - anything) is going to be out of conformity with your
computer's programming and the computer will insist that you become
upset again.
And so you live a pathetic existence, constantly at the mercy of
things and people, trying desperately to make them conform to your
computer’s demands, so that you can enjoy the only peace you can ever
know – a temporary respite from negative emotions, courtesy of your
computer and your programming.
Then you will understand how profound this statement is: “If a man
wants to sue you for your shirt, let him have your coat as well. If a
man in authority makes you go one mile, go with him two.” For it will
have become evident to you that real oppression comes, not from people
who fight you in court or from authority that subjects you to slave
labor, but from your computer whose programming destroys your peace of
mind the moment outside circumstances fail to conform to its demands.
People have been known to be happy even in the oppressive atmosphere
of a concentration camp! It is from the oppression of your programming
that you need to be liberated.
Only then will you experience that inner freedom from which all social
revolution must arise for the powerful emotion, the passion that
arises in your heart at the sight of social evils and impels you to
action, will have its origin in reality, not in your programming or
your ego.
- Raam
PS: I like the last part the best, don't miss it :-)
Topic: Becoming a Creditor: Window of opportunity will close: Meaning???
- Raam Toerper
The meek shall inherit the earth...indeed...personally, I often like the
picture that
emerges when one interprets sacred scripture metaphorically, but also
literally - and
how the greatest challenges and greates opportunities tend to be different
sides of
the very same coin...put those two together and it could look something like
this:
One of the greatest challenges for creating a world that works for all life,
is the degree
of centralization of power and resources in the hands of very few,
seemingly...misguided
individuals. no, FAMILIES. Now what if the meek were to literally inherit
the earth - bodhisattvas
born to be the heirs of these few epicenters of power, evolved beyond reach
of the massive
brainwashing and imprinting used by these families to maintain their agenda
(imagine how much
time and energy is spent manipulating John Doe, multiply that a few timesby
itself...), sleepers
destined to awake one day with the power of half the worlds resources in
their hands and
the highest good of all life in their hearts...suddenly, centralization
become such sweet,
beautiful thing, like giant screw chaining our planet to the path of
destruction, tightened
just a bit too far...
Hmm, now let me add another thought regarding the "powers to be".
Have you seen Avatar? (Sooo good, watched it 3 times and counting...).
In one scene, before the final battle, the protagonist preys to Eiwa,
Goddess of the Na'vi (the
big blue people) to help them in battle. The future high priestess sees that
and basically says
""Eiwa never takes sides, she only protects the balance of life".
Jack Smith has a great scripture-based theory on why the power to be have
held so much power
in recent centuries - being the ones that have been doing the right thing
for the wrong reasons, while
the children of God have been doing the wrong things for the right reasons.
A version of that integrated
with the wisdom of the Na'vi might be, that the powers to be's agenda -
reducing world population to
500 million by any means and controlling the rest via global military
dictatorship - while appearing about
as evil as it gets from an individual perspective, from a universal
perspective 5 billion people is a drop of
water on a hot stone - and might have so far been the most comprehensive and
executable plan to
bring back a certain degree of balance of life back to this planet and allow
life to continue here.
This is what is changing now. Through the collective brain of the world wide
web the knowledge and
wisdom of east and west and literally millions of benevolent organizations
and billions of people is
in the process of integrating to form and actionable alternative - and with
it, the power and resources
have begun to effortlessly and unstoppably change hands...
...so who's there really to blame for anything? are we not all but playing
our roles in the push and
pull of light and dark? Are we not all just as much cause as we are effect?
In any case, life will survive. It will balance itself. We are in the
process of deciding what is necessary for
that to happen. How much evolutionary pressure does it take for to
collectively wake up from the insane
dream we have been dreaming, to truly see, appreciate and shepard all life.
The time of the great
decision, yes, composed of trillions of small decisions throughout history
and from hereon out,
16 billion years down, ~3 to go. Maybe (this phase of) the game of life,
like all games, in retrospective
will be defined by it's last seconds. 10% percent of all humans that ever
lived (well, according to our
history) are alive today. And maybe together we're about to decide what the
efforts and lives of all that
came before us end up amounting to...what an honor and pleasure to be alive
today - especially being
who and where we are, with the knowledge and resources we hold and the
communities we're a part
of, like this one especially, having the potential to play a vital role in
what's to come...
...and maybe that's all just crazy talk. Who knows. The Buddha says there's
just one truth - and that
is everything is true, or nothing is true. So as for my part, this is all
just an entertaining illusion and
I can't take any of it too serious anymore and get all hot and bothered
about it, rather enjoy the game
of co-creation with awesome people like you...
--
Rasmus Raam Toerper
Global Environmental Fuel Technology LLC
yourgeft@gmail.com
Direct: (310) 402-6235
Office: 866-442-5557
www.OmStar.com
14761-G Franklin Avenue
Tustin, CA 92780
"We Make Going Green Profitable"
- Raam Toerper
oh, had it ever stopped?
--
Rasmus Raam Toerper
Global Environmental Fuel Technology LLC
yourgeft@gmail.com
Direct: (310) 402-6235
Office: 866-442-5557
www.OmStar.com
14761-G Franklin Avenue
Tustin, CA 92780
"We Make Going Green Profitable"
- Raam Toerper
the ass-kicking that is...
maybe it just came home at last, not enough butts left to kick
elsewhere...too bad
> 14761-G Franklin Avenue
> Tustin, CA 92780
> "We Make Going Green Profitable"
--
Rasmus Raam Toerper
Global Environmental Fuel Technology LLC
yourgeft@gmail.com
Direct: (310) 402-6235
Office: 866-442-5557
www.OmStar.com
14761-G Franklin Avenue
Tustin, CA 92780
"We Make Going Green Profitable"
- Raam Toerper
this thread just inspired me to make another post, which you might enjoy in
this context:
PS: forgive me if my last post sounded heartless or sarcastic, not meant
that way,
the part of me that might have seen too many parts of this world and knows
too much
of its (recent) history kinda blurted that out...
> 14761-G Franklin Avenue
> Tustin, CA 92780
> "We Make Going Green Profitable"
--
Rasmus Raam Toerper
Global Environmental Fuel Technology LLC
yourgeft@gmail.com
Direct: (310) 402-6235
Office: 866-442-5557
www.OmStar.com
14761-G Franklin Avenue
Tustin, CA 92780
"We Make Going Green Profitable"
Topic: Where Can One Find or Get a EIN For 4419 Application?
- Neo
If I understand correctly, one shouldn't use a corporate number,
therefore how does one find or obtain one for a private filing?
Topic: How...?
- Donna Lee
Maverick, welcome
You are among kindred spirits here.
Realize that we were all inundated and indoctrinated into a system that was designed and orchestrated to bring us down, to make us run faster and faster on the mouse wheel for less and less. It's wonderful to see more people waking up every day. I'm sure someone on here can point you to the appropriate starting audios, etc. :)
> makes asking for help foreign to me. However the type of minds and
> skills I recognize here tells me I would be a fool not to humble
> myself and say I DO NOT KNOW where to start can someone help me?
_________________________________________________________________
http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390707/direct/01/
- "Mr.Zeph"
On 2010-01-13, at 10:43 PM, Maverick wrote:
> makes asking for help foreign to me. However the type of minds and
> skills I recognize here tells me I would be a fool not to humble
> myself and say I DO NOT KNOW where to start can someone help me?
My 2 cents:
Don't fall into the trap of thinking that the commercial redemption
movement is about getting free money. It's not.
Don't mistake it for making you immune to acting according to the very
highest ethics that you are capable of. You're not.
Do not think for a moment that you can be told what is true. You can't.
This movement does hold hope. It is also rife with charlatans,
bullshitters, people who lie for their own egos, and good people who
just don't know better. And there are a few who study long and hard
enough to figure it out and make sense of it.
Observe people. Do they have that ego-smell about them? Are they
angry? Fearful? Combative? Self-righteous? Vain? Think carefully about
what they say before accepting their words as fact.
I've started studying about may 6 months ago, and have started making
baby steps. The fact of the matter is that 90% + of the people in this
movement are gullible suckers. Another 8% are blind men honestly
searching for "the truth". Another 1% are getting really close and the
other 1% have it.
I may be wrong, but I believe that the truth is not some woo-woo
conspiracy bad-guy intern-camp evil empire out to get us. The truth is
probably closer to basic human psychology. There are good, bad, smart,
stupid, diligent, lazy, wise and foolish at all levels. Don't label
them. Use your best instincts and current-level-of-education to
discern fact from fiction.
I would suggest that you start small, affordable and applicable. Keep
your feet firmly rooted in the ground. Pretend you are in law school
being taught by an incompetent teacher. He may be nice, but do your
own research--but he might have the occasional clue to offer you.
I recommend you take one single topic that is important to you.
Perhaps it's paying your bills, monthly and on time. Perhaps it's
saving your house. Perhaps it's a court case. Perhaps it's something
as simple as a parking ticket Perhaps it's... I don't know that is
important to YOU.
Take that one topic. Ask yourself, what limits you? What are the
constraints? What is it, that if you took 100% responsibility for that
you could make come into existence would "fix your problem"?
Focus on that. And learn everything that you possible can that relates
to that topic. Look for fundamentals and focus on them. Make the very
best use of your logic and practical mindedness. Go to archives.org
and get free primers on the basics of law. Read maxims of law, and
learn to apply them everywhere. Grow your knowledge solidly, and
incrementally. Take your time. Do not rush. Learn. Study. Learn more.
Study more.
Be skeptical, practical, realistic while thinking outside of the box.
If you get into this, you are starting a whole new way of living.
Leave all fear and desperation and resentment and anger behind. Even
if all of this is pure bullshit, at the very least you'll create your
own peace. For the nuggets of truth that you do find, rely on them,
prove them. Document them and share them. Nothing teaches like teaching.
In the end, there is no one course that can teach you entire bodies of
knowledge. It takes a minimum of 4 years to become a lawyer, when
going to university. Take it for granted that if you are self-
disciplined that your own self-studies will take you at least that
long to achieve that level of competence.
In short: Choose one subject that is important to you. Focus on it.
Learn the maxims of law. Learn the fundamentals of law and the
monetary system (including accounting). If you aren't a good critical
thinker, acquire those skills. If you are, use them over time. Be
patient, focused and self-responsible.
This is not an easy path, but may, in the end, be the most rewarding
of all. There is no one way. There is what gets you results, or not.
What you do with it is up to you. Good luck and welcome.
- email41@aol.com Jan 14 01:28AM -0500 ^
And there are a few who study long and hard enough to figure it out and
make sense of it.
Another 8% are blind men honestly > searching for "the truth". Another 1%
> are getting really close and the
> other 1% have it.
I second mr.zeph's statement here. Anything in this world that has great
value always comes at a great price. Whether it is the hope diamond, a great
marriage, incredible kids, or a functioning knowledge of commerce that makes
you a powerful force to deal with. Everything great will cost you great
(including your great ignorance). So be prepared to do the hard work that no one
else is willing to do, and perhaps one day we will be looking to you as a
guru.
Topic: I-9 The evolution of creditors?
- truebluestar
Hi Chris,
As I understand it, your strawman (US Citizen) is a legal fiction
(trustee), created by the federal government. It isn't you.
Operating in commerce without that entity has become almost impossible
unless you're willing to go live in the boonies somewhere. So the
trick is to keep your strawman and allow it to enter into contracts
such as the one you're considering. You can use it without being it.
If you learn to control it and declare your relationship to it, you
won't be damaged. I've been listening to Christian Walters' audio
files where he discusses this concept. You can probably find his
recordings with a search on this google group.
Love and peace,
Jim B.
Topic: can my five and three year old become secured party creditors
- Natty
- Peace,
Quick Question folks,
Still learning here, please bare with me. My five year old has basic
handwriting and my three year old pretty much scribbles. Is there any
way for me as the parent to assist them in becoming secured party
creditors? Can they or do they have to be able to sign an autograph
type signature?
Topic: HAPPY NEW YEAR = ANYONE ELSE WANT A SIMPLE METHOD FOR ORGANIZING DOCUMENTS
- UbiquitousMe
Tried at least 7-8 times. Maybe strike the motherlode this time?
Thanks in advance.
Daniel
http://docs.google.com/?pli=1#all
http://tinyurl.com/ybevmte ------>Creditors-in-commerce links page
http://sites.google.com/site/cap1sucks/
(302) 360-8448