Wednesday, January 13, 2010

Creditors-in-commerce daily digest for 01/13/2010


  • who is trading your bond????? [5 Updates]
  • HAPPY NEW YEAR = ANYONE ELSE WANT A SIMPLE METHOD FOR ORGANIZING DOCUMENTS [3 Updates]
  • 1099 oid to check cashing business [1 Update]
  • FIRST STEP to Foreign International Status. [1 Update]
  • Responsibility [1 Update]
  • Becoming a Creditor: Window of opportunity will close: Meaning??? [2 Updates]
  • Notice of Understanding and Intent An... [1 Update]
  • SS number not required by law [1 Update]
  • Traffic Ticket Motion to Dismiss Points & Authorities [1 Update]
  • Mortgage - enforcement [1 Update]
  • Whats going on in our children's schools? [1 Update]
  • Question on UCC-1 [1 Update]
  • Naming myself in Court [1 Update]
  • Judgement pending...Info please [2 Updates]
  • Returned answer on [3 Updates]
Topic: who is trading your bond?????
    Max Kuzkin Jan 12 03:36PM -0800 ^

    This is a hoax

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    of the one sovereign sentient Jan 12 03:58PM -0800 ^

    came from here
    please prove its a hoax....seems plausible from my viewpoint.....

    http://www.stopthepirates.blogspot.com/

    ________________________________
    From: Max Kuzkin
    Sent: Tue, January 12, 2010 6:36:19 PM
    Subject: Re: who is trading your bond?????

    This is a hoax

    On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 1:52 PM, of the one sovereign sentient wrote:

    You can try this if you want. Mine
    >contract—UCC3-203—and to make a Claim in recoupment (Reparations) for
    >fraud committed upon you when you were and infant (See UCC 3-305).

    >Ok, so now you know.
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    > omission does not constitute a waiver of any and/or all intellectual
    > property rights or reserved rights. UCC 1-308

    > Notice to Principal is Notice to Agent / Notice to Agent is Notice to

    Max Kuzkin Jan 12 04:42PM -0800 ^

    please prove it is not?

    On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 3:58 PM, of the one sovereign sentient <

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    Eli Lilly Jan 13 02:33AM -0500 ^

    Its a hoax now anyway...if you type in '1' followed by any set of numbers in the fund number box you will get the same fund over and over again.

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Max Kuzkin
    Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 7:42 PM
    To: of the one sovereign sentient
    Subject: Re: who is trading your bond?????

    please prove it is not?

    On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 3:58 PM, of the one sovereign sentient wrote:
    came from here
    please prove its a hoax....seems plausible from my viewpoint.....

    http://www.stopthepirates.blogspot.com/
    From: Max Kuzkin

    Sent: Tue, January 12, 2010 6:36:19 PM
    Subject: Re: who is trading your bond?????

    This is a hoax

    On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 1:52 PM, of the one sovereign sentient wrote:
    Donna Lee Jan 13 02:36AM -0500 ^

    The Fidelity site cut off access approx 6 months ago. Good thing I retrieved all my CUSIPS, Symbols, Fund numbers back when I had a chance.

    From: lucrative.empire@gmail.com
    Subject: RE: who is trading your bond?????
    Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 02:33:49 -0500
    To: kuzkinmax@gmail.com; locomotivate@yahoo.com

    Its a hoax now anyway...if you type in '1' followed by any set of numbers in the fund number box you will get the same fund over and over again.

    From: Max Kuzkin
    Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 7:42 PM
    To: of the one sovereign sentient
    Cc: Creditors in Commerce
    Subject: Re: [creditors-in-commerce] who is trading your bond?????

    please prove it is not?

    On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 3:58 PM, of the one sovereign sentient wrote:
    came from here
    please prove its a hoax....seems plausible from my viewpoint.....

    http://www.stopthepirates.blogspot.com/

    From: Max Kuzkin
    Sent: Tue, January 12, 2010 6:36:19 PM
    Subject: who is trading your bond?????

    This is a hoax

    On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 1:52 PM, of the one sovereign sentient wrote:


Topic: HAPPY NEW YEAR = ANYONE ELSE WANT A SIMPLE METHOD FOR ORGANIZING DOCUMENTS
    NKLayne Jan 12 09:39PM -0800 ^

    By the way Bruce, Great Marketing TOOL!

    Donna Lee Jan 13 12:48AM -0500 ^

    EXCELLENT tool Bruce, thank you very much! I almost fell offa my chair laughing at the Attorney firm name ie. DEWEY, CHEETAM & HOWE

    Thanks again


    Donna Lee
    www.NotaryPresenters.com


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    onijunbei Jan 12 11:34PM -0800 ^

    i will take a shot at this system as well...and why you are at it, I
    could use a good vacuum, a pretty young maid, and a butler that calls
    me Master Bruce. They say organization is one of the best qualities
    that a successful person has. Thats why I use folders on my computer
    to put documents in.

    just my 2 cents

    unless this topic is actually sarcastic and I am going to be sent a
    bunch of docs that are satirized for my viewing pleasure.

    oni

Topic: 1099 oid to check cashing business
    onijunbei Jan 12 11:24PM -0800 ^

    and dont be afraid to get a bank account. You already pay for the
    service of banks with your taxes. Might as well use them to your
    advantage. And, you can do online banking, and get direct deposit,
    and you dont have to spend all that time and energy going to a check
    cashing place that probably takes a percentage of your check away from
    you.

    just my 2 cents, in my bank account

Topic: FIRST STEP to Foreign International Status.
    onijunbei Jan 12 11:21PM -0800 ^

    you are already foreign. your strawman is domestic. If that makes
    sense.

    just my 2 cents

Topic: Responsibility
    Nick P Jan 12 11:17PM -0800 ^

    From the first LT sessions, my take is that responsible means not
    confused and contradictory (e.g. I understand the charges and plead
    not guilty).

Topic: Becoming a Creditor: Window of opportunity will close: Meaning???
    taranova Jan 12 07:15PM -0800 ^

    I believe by 2012 that is the end of the commercial calendar according
    to the Mayans. Close all 10 SS cards by then or that window wil
    close. As far as getting out of your home-maybe the effort to reduce
    the populatiion and place people in internmanet camps is what he meant-
    for swine flu or other reasons.

    onijunbei Jan 12 11:15PM -0800 ^

    my 2 cents

    i agree with the above that the date mentioned(if an actual date not
    construed and obstructed by spanish intervention into mayan culture)
    is more a sign of a different consciousness and not an actual ending.
    I think too much has been made of 2012. But it is kinda funny when
    you start getting into the US Code and it only has the registration of
    securities to the date of 2012(as to whether this is just a time line
    to renew the statute/code or an actual ending of securities trading,
    finance, and monetary involvement is unknown to me). And this also
    reminds me of the Schumann Resonance and how the frequency of the
    earth is changing. Throughout history, many individuals predicted an
    end to the earth and the coming of Christ. Well, Christ never came,
    or to some biblical scholars, the 2nd coming has come and gone a long
    time ago, and this may just in fact be another mistiming of
    unfortunate people wishing an end to humanity. And history has shown
    frequently and repeatedly the dumbing down of whole cultures and
    populations to do the bidding of a tiny majority. Life is suppose to
    be simple(please dont smirk or laugh at that last statement, LOL).
    But to me life is simple; get up, eat, shit, work, sleep...repeat as
    long as life lets you. The only thing that complicates life is
    relationships. Relationships between our friends, loved ones,
    strangers, our boss, our work environment...tis my opinion the only
    thing that makes life difficult. But life is what it is...an
    illogical singularity in a materialistic and energy driven Universe.
    The only meaning to life is whatever meaning you give it. If we keep
    worrying about what may be.. instead of what is, then life just holds
    negativity for our energy and spiritually driven souls. Energy is a
    wave. And that wave is a frequency. And one can go thru life on the
    down trough or the up trough(pronounced troff). Their is no ending to
    energy. It cannot be destroyed. It can only change from one form to
    another. What is a window of opportunity? Invictus: "I am the master
    of my fate: I am the captain of my soul." Life is what you make of
    it...and in regards to that as well, life is suppose to take you to
    experience...one should never plan an experience. Life happens, and
    life ends; but to master your life while you are conscious of it is
    the biggest thrill of all. Fear is the greatest enemy of mankind.
    And this window of opportunity talk to me is just some more of the
    same old fear.

    oni

Topic: Notice of Understanding and Intent An...
    Nick P Jan 12 11:13PM -0800 ^

    the link leads to a blank doc.

Topic: SS number not required by law
Topic: Traffic Ticket Motion to Dismiss Points & Authorities
    georaw Jan 12 09:51PM -0800 ^

    Superior Court of _______
    Central Division - Traffic
    _____________________
    __________, California


    PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA,

    "Plaintiff";

    and

    ___________ ; "Accused"

    Case No.: ___________

    DEFENDANT'S NOTICE & MOTION TO DISMISS
    FOR LACK OF SUBJECT MATTER JURISDICTION


    1. ____________ moves the court for an order of dismissal.

    2. The Department of Motor Vehicles and the Department of California
    Highway Patrol are both departments and sub-agencies of the California
    Business, Transportation & Housing agency. The departments/sub-
    agencies are authorized with original jurisdiction to enforce and hold
    administrative court hearings concerning California Vehicle Code,
    "CVC," violations.

    This judicial court does not have original jurisdiction in this case.

    3. Dismissal is proper in this case because this court was not
    properly petitioned with a writ of mandate, as required by law, to
    invoke the subject matter jurisdiction of this court, for judicial
    review of the administrative law court's order or final determination.

    4. This motion is based on the attached Defendant's Memorandum Of
    Points & Authorities for Notice & Motion For Dismissal For Lack Of
    Subject Matter Jurisdiction, and all pleadings and papers on file.

    5. Please take notice that xxxxxxxx will bring this motion for a pre-
    trial hearing before this court on ______________ , at _______, in
    __________.

    DEFENDANT'S MEMORANDUM OF POINTS & AUTHORITIES FOR MOTION TO DISMISS
    LACK OF SUBJECT MATTER JURISDICTION

    _____________ asks the court for an Order Of Dismissal For Lack of
    Subject Matter

    Jurisdiction, for the following reasons:

    A. Parties

    1. The parties are the People Of the State Of California,

    "Plaintiff";

    and

    _____________ , "Accused."

    B. Statement of Facts

    2. Officer ________ [ officer's badge number ], "Officer," issued a
    Notice To Appear, "UTC," [Uniform Traffic Citation] to Accused, for
    alleged violation of California Vehicle Code, "CVC," 22106 Unsafe
    Backing.

    3. On or about __ - __ - __,

    Defendant appeared in court to straighten out an erroneous oversight
    of the court. Court appearing to be backed up with paperwork and
    inadequate manpower to thoroughly track all correspondence in
    reference to this case and entered a failure to appear which triggered
    a Drivers License Suspension with the DMW. Judge corrected mistake and
    Defendant was required to make a special trip to DMV to correct this
    matter.

    4. Judge entered a plea of not guilty for Defendant, after Defendant
    Stated that Defendant did not have enough information to make a
    knowledgeable plea.

    C. Points and Authorities

    6. According to California Government Code, "CGC," §12850, state
    agencies fall under the executive branch of the Governor:

    §12850. The secretary of each agency has the power of general
    supervision over, and is directly responsible to the Governor for, the
    operations of each department, office, and unit within the agency.

    7. According to CGC §11000, state agencies include, but are not
    limited to, the Department of Motor Vehicles, "DMV," the Department of
    California Highway Patrol, "CHP," the Police & Sheriff's departments,
    etc:

    §11000. (a) As used in this title, "state agency" includes every
    state office, officer, department, division, bureau, board, and
    commission.

    8. According to CGC §12800, the Business, Transportation & Housing
    agency is an agency of the state of California:

    §12800. There are in the state government the following agencies:

    State and Consumer Services; Business, Transportation and Housing;
    California Environmental Protection; California Health and Human
    Services; Labor And Workforce Development; Resources; and Youth and
    Adult Correctional. (Emphasis added.)

    9. According to CVC §1500 & §2100. The DMV & CHP are departments of
    the California Business, Transportation and Housing agency: §1500.

    There is in the Business, Transportation and Housing Agency the
    Department of Motor Vehicles. §2100. There is in the Business,
    Transportation and Housing Agency the Department of the California
    Highway Patrol.

    10. According to CVC §265 & §295 Words & Phrases, the commissioner is
    the Commissioner of the CHP, and the director is the Director of the

    DMV: §265. The "commissioner" is the Commissioner of the California
    Highway Patrol.
    §295. The "director" is the Director of Motor Vehicles.

    11. According to CVC §1650 & §2400(b). Powers & Duties. The director
    of the DMV is authorized with original jurisdiction and charged with
    administering and enforcing the
    (CVC) code; the commissioner of the CHP is authorized with original
    jurisdiction and charged with enforcement of the laws regulating
    vehicles & use of the highway:

    §1650. The director shall administer and enforce the provisions of
    this code relating to the department.

    §2400(b) the commissioner shall enforce all laws regulating the
    operation of vehicles and the use of the highways

    12. According to CGC §§ 11400, 11410.20 & 11410.50, The executive
    branch departments within the California Business, Transportation &
    Housing agency, hereafter collectively, "Agency," which are not
    expressly exempted nor are there statutes relating to the proceedings
    that provide otherwise, must abide by the Administrative Procedures
    Act, "APA":

    §11400. (a) This chapter and Chapter 5 (commencing with Section
    11500) constitute the administrative adjudication provisions of the
    Administrative Procedure Act.

    §11410.20. Except as otherwise expressly provided by statute:

    (a) This chapter applies to all agencies of the state.

    §11410.50. This chapter applies to an adjudicative proceeding
    required to be conducted under Chapter 5 (commencing with Section
    11500) unless the statutes relating to the proceeding provide
    otherwise. (Emphasis added.)

    13. According to CGC § 11425.10(a)(1 & 2), the Agency is required to
    give notice of any Agency actions and is required to send a copy of
    the procedure governing the action:

    §11425.10. (a) The governing procedure by which an agency conducts
    an adjudicative proceeding is subject to all of the following
    requirements:

    (1) The agency shall give the person to which the agency action is
    directed notice and an opportunity to be heard, including the
    opportunity to present and rebut evidence.

    (2) The agency shall make available to the person to which the agency
    action is directed a copy of the governing procedure, including a
    statement whether Chapter 5

    (commencing with Section 11500) is applicable to the proceeding.

    14. According to CGC §11410.10 & §11503, an agency is required to
    conduct adjudicative hearings for actions undertaken within the
    purview of its authority where a state statute or an inalienable right
    (to travel) is in question:

    §11410.10. This chapter applies to a decision by an agency if, under
    the federal or state Constitution or a federal or state statute, an
    evidentiary hearing for determination of facts is required for
    formulation and issuance of the decision.

    §11503. A hearing to determine whether a right, authority, license or
    privilege should be revoked, suspended, limited or conditioned shall
    be initiated by filing a citation. (Emphasis added)

    15. According to CGC §11502(a) all Agency hearings are required to be
    heard by executive branch administrative law judges, not judicial
    branch judges:

    §11502(a) All hearings of state agencies required to be conducted
    under this chapter shall be conducted by administrative law judges on
    the staff of the Office of Administrative Hearings.

    16. CGC §11523 provides the proper procedure for the Agency (or

    Defendant) to request judicial review of the administrative Agency's
    final decision or order:

    §11523. Judicial review may be had by filing a petition for a writ of
    mandate in accordance with the provisions of the Code of Civil

    Procedure, subject, however, to the statutes relating to the
    particular agency.

    D. Argument

    17. It is contrary to the principle of separation of powers and a
    breach of due process for this judicial branch court to usurp the
    executive branch administrative authority, duty & jurisdiction held by
    the DMV,

    18. The UTC issued to Defendant was undertaken within the purview of
    the original authority and jurisdiction of the executive branch DMV,
    not this judicial branch court. See CVC §1650 & §2400(b), CGC §§
    11425.10(a) (1 & 2), §11503 & §11502(a), supra.

    19. Defendant's unconditional right to travel is challenged by the
    issuance of a UTC claiming violations of restrictive CVC conditions.
    See CGC § 11503 & 11410.10, supra.

    20. The Agency, not a judicial branch court, is required to initiate
    an administrative Agency hearing and send notice of action and a copy
    of the governing procedure to Defendant. See CGC § 11503 and §11425.10
    (a) (1 & 2), supra.

    21. According to CGC §11410, §11410.20, §11410.50, § 11425.10(a)(1 &

    2), §11503, §11502(a), & §11523, supra, this judicial court has no
    jurisdiction to lawfully
    hear an administrative matter until administrative due process
    procedures have been exhausted.

    22. This judicial court can only review the facts and conclusions of
    law found in the executive Agency's administrative final determination
    or order, and only after the Agency (or Defendant) petitions for a
    writ of mandate for judicial review. See CGC §11523, supra.

    23. The Agency with original jurisdiction has not filed a petition for
    a writ of mandate for judicial review with this judicial court in
    accordance with CGC §11523. Therefore, this court has no jurisdiction
    to hear this matter. E. Conclusion

    24. The original jurisdiction Agency has not presented a petition to
    this court, for a writ of mandate for this court to judicially review
    the administrative courts final determination or order, which would
    give subject matter jurisdiction to this judicial court. See CGC
    §11523. 25. The original jurisdiction Agency, as shown by CVC §1650 &
    §2400(b), & CGC § 11502(a), supra, has not invoked the subject matter
    jurisdiction of this judicial court. See CGC §11523, supra.

    26. This judicial branch court has no lawful authority to impose its
    opinion, where no original jurisdiction administrative agency petition
    stands in compliance with the APA requesting it to do so.

    27. No judicial determination has properly been requested. The law
    requires that jurisdiction be properly invoked. Without jurisdiction,
    this court cannot consider this matter. This case should be dismissed
    for lack of subject matter jurisdiction.

    F. Petition

    28. Because this court has no subject matter jurisdiction to consider
    Case No.: _________________ , Defendant asks the court to grant
    Defendant an Order Of Dismissal For Lack Of Subject Matter
    Jurisdiction for said case.


    Dated this _____ day of ________, 2010

    _______________________ (signed) _____________
    ____________

Topic: Mortgage - enforcement
    "NKLayne" Jan 12 08:28PM -0800 ^

    FORM 55A
    NOTICE OF HEARING FOR DIRECTIONS
    (General heading)
    NOTICE OF HEARING FOR DIRECTIONS

    By order of the court, a copy of which is served with this
    notice, a reference was directed to (person conducting reference) for the purpose of (set out
    purpose or reference). The (identify party) has obtained an appointment with (name
    of person conducting reference) on (day), (date), at (time), at (address) for a hearing to consider directions for the conduct of the reference in this proceeding.
    IF YOU FAIL TO ATTEND, in person or by a lawyer acting for you, directions may be given and the reference may proceed in your absence and without further notice to you, and you will be bound by any order made in the proceeding.
    (Date)
    (Name, address and telephone number
    of solicitor or party serving notice)
    TO (Name and address of solicitor or
    party receiving notice)

    Rule 55. Default; Default Judgment

    (a) Entering a Default.
    When a party against whom a judgment for affirmative relief
    is sought has failed to plead or otherwise defend, and that
    failure is shown by affidavit or otherwise, the clerk must
    enter the party's default.

    (b) Entering a Default Judgment.

    (1) By the Clerk.
    If the plaintiff's claim is for a sum certain or a sum that
    can be made certain by computation, the clerk - on the
    plaintiff's request, with an affidavit showing the amount
    due - must enter judgment for that amount and costs against
    a defendant who has been defaulted for not appearing and who
    is neither a minor nor an incompetent person.

    (2) By the Court.
    In all other cases, the party must apply to the court for a
    default judgment. A default judgment may be entered against
    a minor or incompetent person only if represented by a
    general guardian, conservator, or other like fiduciary who
    has appeared. If the party against whom a default judgment
    is sought has appeared personally or by a representative,
    that party or its representative must be served with written
    notice of the application at least 7 days before the
    hearing. The court may conduct hearings or make referrals -
    preserving any federal statutory right to a jury trial -
    when, to enter or effectuate judgment, it needs to:

    (A) conduct an accounting;
    (B) determine the amount of damages;
    (C) establish the truth of any allegation by evidence; or
    (D) investigate any other matter.
    (c) Setting Aside a Default or a Default Judgment.


    The court may set aside an entry of default for good cause,
    and it may set aside a default judgment under Rule 60(b)
    http://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/frcp/Rule55.htm#Rule60_b_
    .
    (d) Judgment Against the United States.

    A default judgment may be entered against the United States,
    its officers, or its agencies only if the claimant
    establishes a claim or right to relief by evidence that
    satisfies the court.

Topic: Whats going on in our children's schools?
    Max Kuzkin Jan 12 08:16PM -0800 ^

    My son came home today informing me that this private company will be coming
    into his school and feeding them lunch. Needless to say I have researched
    the company that is world wide and they started this around the same time
    the swine flu vaccines have came out they are providing integrated food to
    the children.

    Furthermore they want me to sign this form giving them permission to use my
    son's photo and or video any way they see fit for anything they want to do.

    This form scares me, it is in the format of a TRUST and that I Grant to them
    the authority to do what they want to do.

    It has never been an issue for the school to take my son's picture to use
    for school or local purposes however where did this private company come
    from including its successors that I would be granting permission to?

    I would like to get thoughts on it!

    I am thinking of revoking this trust and on that day they come in to the
    school picking up my son and taking him out to lunch...


    Thanks
    Katie
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Topic: Question on UCC-1
    Ayanna Camara Jan 12 09:34PM -0500 ^

    I wish to file a UCC-1 as part of my process to close out a mortgage
    rescission process. I have a MRC in place that was not responded to. As
    collateral on the UCC1 I will be putting the MRC, Property Legal
    Description, Deed and Note that has been AFV. For this type UCC-1, would it
    be correct to list the Mortgage Company as Debtor?

    Thanks for your assistance.

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Topic: Naming myself in Court
    Dan Ecklund Jan 12 06:06PM -0800 ^

    Gordon Hall suggests: I am here AS John Doe. or, I am here to
    represent John DOE. Or, I am here as authorized agent of John Doe. Or,
    in Admiralty, I am here by Special Appearance (which brings it into
    Admiralty) as Third Party Intervener to settle any and all matters
    regarding this case.

    Just repeat any or all of those until they give up and go away. They
    will threaten you, ask you directly "who are you? What is your name?"
    but just keep saying the above.

Topic: Judgement pending...Info please
    of the one sovereign sentient Jan 12 04:01PM -0800 ^

    get them to prove they followed proper procedure to the letter...which the probably did not....and then deafult them and lien them and the one signing the document for the judgement, maybe her house or car or otherwise...that should stop them using your exemption...got the same situation here....going to do the same through a notary
    jsut an opinion for entertainment purposes only...LOL

    ________________________________
    From: Caitibird
    Sent: Tue, January 12, 2010 6:13:17 PM
    Subject: Judgement pending...Info please

    Hi,
    There is a judgement pending against me that I realize I'm going to
    have to bite the bullet and pay. There is no way out at this stage.
    Too late and a dollar short at this point. Is it better to contact
    the collector (plaintiff) or attorney and offer payment before the
    judgement is granted? I am wondering if there is a real way to get a
    judgement off my credit report after it has been granted. I've read
    it stays on for over 7 years. And, If I send a validation of debt to
    the credit reporting agencies, they could easily get a copy of the
    judgement (which is a contract). I just want it to end and have as
    little damage as possible at this point. Any opinions would be
    appreciated.
    Cait
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    Max Hemmingway Jan 12 06:05PM -0800 ^

    Proper procedure to the letter is definitely one of the right ways to
    go. But you can't make them prove they did. You must prove they
    didn't.
    Is there a way out at this stage? Yes, there is. You need to respond
    to the summons and complaint and fight them to the bitter end which
    should be your finding violations of federal law and taking them to
    federal court where you stand an excellent chance of winning and
    making them forget about their judgment and pay you to go away and
    leave them alone. It isn't hard to do and just to prove that
    statement, more than 9,000 people have done just that in 2009 alone.

Topic: Returned answer on
    Max Kuzkin Jan 12 03:39PM -0800 ^

    What Max are you talking about?

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    Max Kuzkin Jan 12 03:40PM -0800 ^

    Which Max are you talking too?

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    Dan Ecklund Jan 12 05:51PM -0800 ^

    Yes, Tim Turner also describes this process, of going to court in
    Admiralty as a 3rd party intervener, there to settle the dispute
    between the plaintiff and your strawman. Since the claim has already
    been established by your process, as you said, you may simply present
    your paperwork, and the court serves to give the 3rd party intervener
    the judgment. Of course, you probably need to have already
    established your relationship to the strawman, and be able to document
    that for the admiralty court.

    Dan

    Dan, very well explained. CIC seminar speakers as well as Winston
    Shrout have related that the commercially-jammed-up-property-owner
    whom one has liened might summons the lienholder into court as a
    Defendant. Winston demonstrated how to turn oneself into 3rd party
    Plaintiff with a Counterclaim that basically states "default
    judgment's a done deal. im here for my check. I won. Administrative
    procedure has not bee exhausted by 3rd party defendant." One aspect of
    the commercially-jammed-up-property-owner
    bringing the case to court for relief is that the whole process is
    placed in the public record by Mr.Mrs Jammed Up. Thank you for
    explaining the whole process very well. :) kathy

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