Saturday, January 30, 2010

digest for Creditors-in-commerce 01-30-2010


  • is brandon a new world order minion,selling cabalistic new age propaganda?be careful people... [4 Updates]
  • Trust of Government [1 Update]
  • flags [3 Updates]
  • Credit card [2 Updates]
  • PURELY SEMANTICS [1 Update]
  • creditorology [1 Update]
  • JERRY KANE CALL TODAY [1 Update]
  • gmac still has not validated [2 Updates]
  • your BERTH certificate [1 Update]
  • How do I change email address where I receive group mail ????? [1 Update]
  • Post Office [1 Update]
  • Actual Court Experience [2 Updates]
  • TRAVELING IN MY AUTOMOBILE [1 Update]
  • An alternative to Google: "Scroogle" [2 Updates]
  • Friday night conference call. [1 Update]
  • Canada under D.C. [1 Update]
Topic: is brandon a new world order minion,selling cabalistic new age propaganda?be careful people...
    atexascash Jan 30 10:42AM -0800 ^

    Every phase our Lives are in COMMERCE. You need your STRAWMAN to
    operate in COMMIERCE. Your
    STRAWMAN has a LICENSE to operate in COMMERCE (i.e. Drivers License,
    Marriage License, Handgun
    License, Occupational License, Building Permits, etc.). A License is
    good as long as you want it to be, by your
    permission. When there is a FINE for misuse of your License, you need
    to learn how to then switch the
    STRAWMAN to the Living Soul with the Right to Life, Liberty, Property,
    and the Pursuit of Happiness.
    The STRAWMAN is a TRANSMITTING UTILITY that allows you to operate in
    COMMERCE with a LICENSE
    to conduct your COMMERCIAL Affairs.
    Anyone operating in COMMERCE without a LICENSE is committing a
    COMMERCIAL CRIME. You and I need
    to learn how to become the REPRESENTATIVE or AGENT for the STRAWMAN
    and conduct all of his/her
    COMMERCIAL AFFAIRS without getting involved.
    All crimes are Commercial and are then regulated by COMMERCIAL COURTS.
    COMMERCIAL CRIMES are
    Murder, Stealing, Dealing in illegal drugs, Prostitution, Practicing
    Law or making a Legal Determination without
    the Permission or Consent by Assent of any party to a Contract.
    All COMMERCE is ruled by CONTRACTS. All COURTS (Tribunals) are ruled
    by, CONTRACTS. Absent a
    CONTRACT, the COURT (Tribunal) will proceed to write a CONTRACT under
    Cause/Case #___. Will the
    defendant rise, what is your name. This is the signature for the
    Contract. How do you plead - this is the giving, of
    SUBJECT MATTER JURISDICTION and becomes part of the Consideration for
    the Contract. All the arguments
    are the Offer for the Contract and the JUDGMENT is the Acceptance for
    the CONTRACT. The court takes a
    Complaint, turns it into a CHARGE against the STRAWNMAN, tries him/her
    on the CHARGE and then a
    JUDGMENT is rendered which is a Civil Action, a Claim, and this must
    then be Accepted by the LIVING SOUL.
    You Accept the JUDGMENT in two ways, by silence and signing the
    JUDGMENT or by Appealing it to a higher
    court (a THIRD PARTY) who will then agree with the Judgment. Why would
    you argue Law or Codes, Rules,
    Regulations, Procedure, Statutes when the CONTRACT is the LAW in your
    Case.
    The Redemption Process or Acceptance For Value can then authorize the
    Payment of the JUDGMENT. The
    Judgment should be signed by the Court Clerk for they are the Court.
    In most cases the Judge will sign the
    Judgment hoping that you will accept the contract by one of the above
    two ways, by silence or signature or Appeal
    to a THIRD PARTY.
    Another way is the Rejection of Contracts allowed under Truth in
    Lending and when the Contract is about
    Mortgages it comes under Regulation Z and Truth in Lending.
    ALWAYS REMEMBER, everything is in COMMERCE and is ruled by CONTRACTS.
    Codes, Rules, Regulations, Procedure, Statutes apply only to the
    Corporation that they were written for. You do not
    Argue Codes, Rules, Regulations, Statutes in COMMERCE - you argue
    CONTRACTS. If there is no CONTRACT,
    there is no CASE. There is no CONTRACT with a Policeman, Government
    Official, Federal Agent, or Federal
    Agency, even with a License. A government or Corporation is a FICTION
    and cannot sign a CONTRACT or
    enforce one unless you enter into their Organization or Corporation as
    an employee and argue their Codes, Rules,
    Regulations, Procedure, whereby they then use these to enforce a
    Contract

    www.stopthepirates.blogspot.com

    Tim Shipper Jan 30 01:35PM -0600 ^

    Interesting.

    The core of the New Age philosophy teaches that the individual is God, and
    creates their own reality. After listening to CIC speeches, doesn't that
    sound familiar? It's also what Pharaoh from the scriptures believed. Pharaoh
    openly declared that he was God, and had the power to do whatever he
    pleased. IMO this belief leads to arrogance and a false sense of pride.

    Creditwrench Jan 30 12:55PM -0800 ^

    I'm pretty new to all this stuff and don't understand some of the
    terms you use here. For instance, the term New Age philosophy. When I
    run into words or phrases that are new to me I always use Google
    Squared these days. I use Google squared because it will take just
    about any term, word or phrase and return a large number of different
    possible definitions and lets you either accept one or more of the
    suggested articles that describe what I am looking for. Gets me a lot
    of great information I wouldn't otherwise find and does so in a big
    hurry. Since I didn't know what the phrase NEW AGE PHILOSOPHY means I
    put it into the search box on google squared and it told me all about
    the New Age Philosophy and what it refers to. Try it and you will see
    all the definitions and descriptions that Google squared returned.
    Quite interesting indeed. Now I am more enlightened on that subject.

    After getting the returns I did I decided to look up the next word
    which was STRAWMAN. Google didn't understand what a Strawman is any
    better than I did so it ask me for up to 5 additional associated words
    or phrases so I add in the next 5 words found in your message and once
    again came up with more very interesting results. I saved that set of
    squares so I could share what Google Squared came up with. Here are
    the results.
    http://www.google.com/squared/table/agGuOxDhZmeTvKUacvVwy5ig

    Since that url is so long I shortened it up

    http://tinyurl.com/yajyend

    I think that all the newbies like me ought to use Google Squared to
    help them learn what some of these words and phrases mean. Also helps
    them to learn about people they hear about too.

    Raam T Jan 30 03:14PM -0800 ^

    too much written word and mental constructs there for my state of mind right
    now and
    all I have to say is that Brandon is amongst the dozen or so purest, most
    genuine,
    connected, loving and compassionate and frickin humble rockstars I've yet
    had the
    honor to hug, and I've been blessed with meeting many, many exceptional
    beings
    in this regard.

    My 2 cents. I love you Brandon.

    --
    Rasmus Raam Toerper

    Global Environmental Fuel Technology LLC
    yourgeft@gmail.com
    Direct: (310) 402-6235
    Office: 866-442-5557

    www.OmStar.com

    14761-G Franklin Avenue
    Tustin, CA 92780

    "We Make Going Green Profitable"

Topic: Trust of Government
    entropid Jan 30 03:00PM -0800 ^

    I post the main part of a document I created. It points out some
    absurd barriers to progress that people in this movement universally
    accept, without examining their brainwashing.

    I believe the following is self-evident:
    1. Man is soveran of his life, but subject to the forces of nature and
    must coexist with the rights of other lives.
    2. Virtues, such as empathy, honesty, self-discipline, curiosity,
    creativity and generosity are generally considered to be the more
    evolved qualities of mankind’s psyche and reasons for the success of
    mankind.
    3. The basic rules of society are for members to aspire to virtues so
    as to engender honest logic for the objectives of survival,
    prosperity, security and well-being of each member of their society.
    4. Statement of Human rights is a statement of minimum conditions
    necessary for men to pursue these objectives.
    5. Government properly, is by, of and for the successive people of the
    respective geographical area (hereafter People).
    6. Government is a trust (hereafter TRUST) granted by People to
    benefit same People by assisting them in the communication, attainment
    and maintenance of the above common objectives, survival, prosperity,
    security and their well being.
    7. Secrecy of TRUST affairs is contrary to the valid objectives of
    TRUST. Rules that the beneficiaries cannot readily understand is
    contrary to the valid objectives of a TRUST.
    8. Laws or regulations by governments regarding TRUSTS is outside
    their authority and is void at inception.
    9. All government, no matter how it came about, is a TRUST. The
    people controlling a government might not adequately perform their
    trustee duties, but this TRUST exists and the responsibilities exist.
    The TRUST exists by virtue of the non-existence of any other honest
    rational alternative explanation for government. It is self-evident.
    10. Any rule, decree, treaty, agreement or action, by the trustees of
    government, that conflicts with the objective of the TRUST are invalid
    from their inception.
    11. The existence of the TRUST does not need to be stated; the People
    as beneficiaries do not need to be stated. They are self-evident as
    there is no other honest rational alternative explanation.
    12. The grantors of long term TRUST must be the People, otherwise the
    People do not control the trustees, and the People can not assure that
    they are the beneficiaries.
    13. Valid long term government can only derive from authority of the
    People as ultimate grantors of the TRUST.
    14. If the People are not the grantors, the authority of government is
    not derived from the People; the responsibility attached to the
    authority of government is not of the People.
    15. The adult People, individually, must be aware of their grantor
    status and the terms of the TRUST for them to exercise their grantor
    responsibilities.
    16. TRUST does not require land or real estate to exist. The main
    property of TRUST is the interest in the survival, prosperity,
    security and well-being of each member of the People.
    17. Grantors may only gift to the TRUST property that is theirs. Land
    cannot really be owned, but rather one exerts control of the benefits
    and the liabilities and holds in trust for the future.
    18. Grantors of trust may only gift with full knowledge and
    understanding.
    19. Gifting of humans to the TRUST is contrary to the objectives of
    the TRUST. Gifting of debt to a TRUST is contrary to the objectives
    of a TRUST.
    20. A trust is a contract. It must meet all the requirements of a
    contract.
    21. Each beneficiary of a TRUST has the right to full written
    disclosure because:
    a. The TRUST is extremely important to his well being
    b. The TRUST is extremely important to his descendents well being
    c. He needs to decide if purported benefits are benefits or are
    liabilities
    d. He needs to decide whether to accept TRUST or if alternatives are
    better
    e. He needs to determine if he is receiving his benefits
    f. He needs to evaluate the performance of the trustee
    g. He needs to be able to communicate any problems to the grantor
    h. He needs to be able to terminate TRUST
    22. If terms of TRUST are withheld from beneficiary, the beneficiary
    has the right to specify the terms as they relate to him.
    23. TRUST can not be terminated without approval of beneficiaries.
    24. Beneficiaries’ rights of TRUST are non-transferable.
    25. Gift of assets to TRUST is unconditional, made freely and
    knowledgably. Gift of assets to TRUST cannot be withdrawn without
    permission of beneficiaries.
    26. Only people can be grantors of TRUST. Only people can be trustees
    of TRUST, otherwise there is conflict of interest. These people must
    be disclosed to beneficiaries.
    27. De jure government is a TRUST, expressed by the People as
    grantors, for the primary benefit of these People on a continuing
    basis.
    28. TRUSTS may in concert, under authority of their Peoples, appoint
    subsidiary central TRUSTS, of revocable participation by People, for
    the ultimate benefit of said Peoples.
    29. A purported bankruptcy of government does not alter the primary
    responsibility of government.
    30. A purported trustee in bankruptcy of a government has primary
    responsibility to the People, not to the purported creditor.
    Government can only exist, in any form, for the People. The TRUST
    always exists because of the non-existence of any other rational
    alternative. It is self-evident.
    31. The beneficiaries are not liable to a purported creditor of a
    TRUST.
    32. A purported creditor of a de facto government has no claim against
    the People as the People are not the grantors or the trustees.
    33. A purported creditor of a de jure government has a claim against
    only the commercial property of the TRUST if the trustees were acting
    within their duties and only if the claim is based upon a valid
    contract.
    34. All legal fictions are subordinate to the People. People are
    superior to persons and to corporations
    35. The People are the ultimate creditors of all legal fictions.
    36. The People are the ultimate beneficiaries of all valid legal
    fictions.
    37. Honest logic dictates that prevention of valid government,
    diversion of valid government, subversion of valid government or
    perversion of valid government are near ultimate crimes against
    People. These are orders of magnitude more serious than a serial
    killer. These crimes are extremely serious and deserving of very
    extraordinary liabilities. I do not believe anyone can evidence any
    other reasonable means of probable deterrence of these crimes or of
    probable remedy of these crimes.
    38. The essence of honest law must of necessity be honest logic. The
    alternative is dishonest logic, which is tyranny. Honest logic is
    honest law. Secrecy, secret rules, secret procedures, secret
    presumptions, secret meanings or secret agendas of legal systems
    exclude honesty and are the means to fraud.
    39. The trustees of governments under instruction of their grantors
    have instituted a dichotomy, where the world of reality is ruled by
    the Public Policy of secrecy, dishonesty and fantasy and enforced in
    by the terrorism of public laws and public courts.
    40. Authority and responsibility are inseparable. The exercise of
    power and the responsibility for its effects are inseparable. Rewards
    and liabilities are inseparable. Benefits of control are inseparable
    from responsibility of control. Insurance does not separate
    responsibility from benefits.
    41. There is no honest theory of power from the top down type of
    government being a reasonable alternative for the benefit of People.
    It is intended to benefit the savages that want to rule others for
    their own personal and family benefit.
    42. Benefits and liabilities must not become separated. However, one
    of the most important reasons for a society, is to be able to insure
    each other against severe misfortune and conversely to insure society
    for benefit from fortune of some. Benefits and liabilities are
    important because of their impact on quality of life and survival.
    43. The effects of liabilities are not transferred easily to a central
    government. Awareness of possible liabilities and mitigating
    liabilities is best accomplished close to the source and close to the
    impact of its affects. Obviously assistance by means of special
    knowledge, talents or abilities can come from anywhere.
    44. Land, water and environment generally are most efficiently and
    effectively entrusted to the influence of local People with natural
    exposure to the benefits and liabilities of same. Any authority over
    land and water emanates from local occupation and use of same, by
    People. It does not emanate from a central government.
    45. International Monetary Fund (hereafter IMF),The World Bank,
    Federal Reserve System and United Nations are part of an integrated
    organization for the benefit of a very small group (hereafter
    CROWN) , rather than the People’s of Earth. The London Branch of the
    House of Rothschild and the City of London are apparently at the
    center of this group, hidden from the public by layers of front men
    and front corporations. These front men and front corporations must
    accept all liability accorded to this system, until they exposed and
    make accessible the CROWN. This function continues for liabilities
    already incurred, even if their agent status ends.
    46. The banking system is a system of CROWN.
    47. The banking system is not the valid primary creditor of
    governments. It is not the creditor of people.
    48. The substance behind money is and has always been nature and men’s
    productivity and creativity. Gold has at times represented the
    limitation of men’s productive ability to extract it.
    49. One severe limit of progress has always been those who would steal
    the benefits of other men’s labors.
    50. Usury is the most highly developed form of this negative behavior.
    51. Legitimate banking is a service of facilitating exchange of labors
    and the exchange of wealth created. However, usury is not
    legitimate. CROWN has institutionalized usury and very severely
    retards progress of mankind.
    52. CROWN has evolved their system of usury so that the currency you
    purportedly borrow is your pre earned credit (money of account) for
    which they require payback with usury to them on money not borrowed
    from them. This is one of the methods of extracting wealth.
    53. Banking has become the most successful form of human parasitism
    and has expanded to become the prime force in degenerating government
    which becomes their further agent of usury.
    54. The rules of commerce are secondary and do not have the same
    status as the laws of virtue. They do not have priority or equality
    with TRUSTS.
    55. Commercial Law, from a historical study and from current analysis,
    is not law for the benefit of commerce, but rather law for the
    promotion and protection of usury in commerce and in all aspects of
    society.
    56. Usury is the loaning accumulated currency to others at an
    exorbitant rate so as to further accumulate the wealth generation of
    others, instead of being self-productive. It is designed to enslave
    the actual creditor. Credit is generated by creativity and production
    of men. Commercial law is dishonestly biased and therefore
    substantially invalid. However, it is valid to use it against those
    who dishonestly use it as a weapon against oneself.
    57. Usury does not completely enslave, so the CROWN taxes involuntary
    involvement with the usury system. Furthermore, a corporate system of
    commerce is instituted, to which more usury can be extended, while
    subjugating the worker further still.
    58. Business is based on honest logic. To the extent that it is not,
    it is stealing.
    59. CROWN systems are based on secrecy, deceit, misinformation, fraud,
    coercion, starvation, war and terrorism. It does not deviate from
    this sacred base methodology, in all that it endeavors.
    60. It is a system of controlling and subverting governments and the
    people of earth, initiated by
    a. Bankrupting countries by
    i. Initiating wars against them physically, empowering dictators,
    subverting governments, destroying industries, destroying small
    farming and self sufficiency of food production, starvation, financial
    attacks on their currencies,
    b. Making purported loans of debt currency to governments which
    i. Are excessive
    ii. Are not productive
    iii. Are not transparent
    iv. Are used personally
    v. Are initiated by bribing government officials
    vi. Are used to control governments to the detriment of the people of
    the country
    61. It uses elaborate measures of control of people via
    a. censored news media,
    b. fabricated history,
    c. censored educational systems,
    d. extortion
    e. fraud
    f. secrecy and
    g. lies
    h. producing hardship, stress, anxiety through starvation, wars,
    terrorism and strife
    62. enforced through
    a. corporations,
    b. financial institutions,
    c. company police,
    d. government courts,
    e. governments’ militaries,
    f. central banks,
    g. Internal Revenue Agency and other collection agencies,
    h. large international banks,
    i. World Bank,
    j. International Monetary Fund,
    k. United Nations and
    l. An international group of elite terrorist bankers
    63. It is a worldwide monopoly of banking.
    64. It is a worldwide de facto monopoly of government.
    65. It does not derive its authority from the People.
    66. It is a system of appropriating asset titles, wealth and power
    unto its owners and controllers.
    67. It is a system of hiding systemic theft of people’s assets by the
    government system.
    68. It is a system of hiding systemic theft of people assets by the
    financial system.
    69. It is a system of claiming to be creditors, when they are in fact
    debtors and the people are creditors.
    70. It is a system of accepting authority and power. It is a system
    of refusing responsibility and obligations.
    71. It is a system of slavery.
    72. It is a system of warring against people.
    73. It is a system of secrecy, a system of binding peoples’ ability to
    evaluate and make informed decisions.
    74. Some of the general negative effects of this organization at the
    top are
    a. inefficient and inept system of power at the top filtering down
    b. system is fundamentally dishonest at the core and requires
    dishonesty throughout to make it function
    c. system is fundamentally illogical at the core and requires illogic
    throughout to make it function
    d. feed down of corruption to upper and middle levels
    e. reduced creativity due to public policies of
    i. secrecy, misinformation and deceptions
    ii. systems based on de facto legal fantasies, words and procedures
    instead of honest substance
    iii. expensive patent systems based on words, and lawyers
    iv. financial officers and management of corporate production
    receiving the economic rewards rather than people creative of useful
    ideas and concepts for human progress.
    v. the financial structure draining huge human energies that could be
    productively used.
    75. System of banking is based upon maintaining secrecy and supplying
    misinformation to people.
    76. Systems of enforcement of this banking system, such as de facto
    governments, de facto laws, public courts based on undeclared intent,
    secrecy of and misinformation of word meanings, facts, process,
    knowledge, and rules. It is based on words and procedures, rather
    than facts and substance. It uses confusions, ignorance and fantasies
    instead of honesty and logic. It coerces enforcement by threat,
    intimidation, extortion and kidnapping.
    77. The CROWN controls governments, information and misinformation
    through education, and media, although a substantial lack of control
    of the internet has developed.
    78. The Canadian governments, like most governments, are operated and
    controlled by CROWN for CROWN’s benefit. Liability cannot be
    separated from the flow of benefits.

Topic: flags
    atexascash Jan 30 10:44AM -0800 ^

    The Law of the Flag: an International Law, which is recognized by
    every nation of the planet, is defined
    as …a rule to the effect that a vessel is a part of the territory of
    the nation whose flag, she flies. The term
    is used to designate the right under which a ship owner, who sends his
    vessel into a foreign port, gives
    notice by his flag to all who enter into contracts with the ship
    master that he intends the Law of that Flag
    to regulate those contracts, and that they must either submit to its
    operation or not contract with him or his
    agent at all." (Ruhstrat v. People, 57 NE 41).
    Registration: When you "register" yourself, you "record formally and
    exactly... in a list or the like," with
    a Registrar. A "registrar" is "an officer who has the custody and
    charge of keeping of a registry or
    register." What really is a "registry?" "Generally, a 'registry'
    applies to vessels in foreign commerce......”
    When we register ourselves, we have recreated ourselves as vessels in
    foreign commerce.
    Flag: Everything moving in commerce is a vessel: space ships,
    satellites, sea-going ships, planes, busses,
    automobiles, the mails, persons and believe it or not - contracts.
    Just as a ship must fly a flag to designate
    its nationality/laws of contract, your paperwork needs to display a
    flag in order to establish who you are
    and what law you will use to contract.
    Stamp: All vessels charge a freight fee to deliver their cargo.
    Likewise we must pay a freight fee as the
    authority to deliver our cargo, i.e.: the paperwork we send needs to
    have a stamp on it. The paper is the
    vessel, the words are the cargo, the flag designates the law and the
    stamp shows that we have paid the fee
    to deliver our cargo. Place the colored flag in the upper left hand
    corner as you are looking at the page
    (the Bonnie Blue is what I use) and place a dollar stamp in the upper
    right hand corner. Write your
    autograph over the stamp to cancel it thus making you the postmaster.
    Whatever flag you choose to use,
    remember not to use a gold-fringed flag as that is under their
    jurisdiction and not your common law
    jurisdiction.
    Registered: Use registered mail to identify your vessel. This places
    your document/vessel into
    international law and gives it recognition in international commerce.
    This is another assertion that you are
    in fact foreign to the jurisdiction they are trying to place you
    under. This number now becomes the case
    number for any and all paperwork related to the first document sent.
    Jolly Roger: If you come upon a flag that is not recognized in
    international law, it is a pirate flag.
    Anything attached to a Title 4 USC 1, 2 Flag (i.e.: gold fringe)
    mutilates the Flag and under Title 4 USC 3
    carries a one-year prison term. The gold fringe is an added color and
    represents "color of law" when
    placed upon the Title 4 USC Flag. The fringe is a mutilation; it
    suspends the Constitution and establishes
    "color of law." The gold-fringed flag that utilizes color of law and
    portends to be the American flag is
    NOT the American flag of peace. It is a pirate flag and it is your
    warning as to whom/what you are about
    to do business with. Army Regulation 260-10 states that the gold
    fringe may be used only on regimental
    "colors," the President's flag, for a military courts martial and for
    the flags used at military recruiting
    centers.
    Courts: The flag in court is the court's advertisement of the laws
    governing their contracts. If you do not
    wish to contract with these courts, then jurisdiction must be
    challenged. In order to correctly challenge
    jurisdiction you must remember [Girty vs. Logan, 6 Bush KY 8] which
    states: "It is an elementary rule of
    pleading, that a plea to the jurisdiction is a tacit admission that
    the court has a right to judge in the case
    and is a waiver to all exception to the jurisdiction." Which means
    that if you plea - you have waived your
    rights to challenge jurisdiction. And when the judge attempts to enter
    a plea for you and says that the state
    statutes allow him to do so, tell him NO, that he cannot practice law
    from the bench and that he is not
    your attorney and you do not give him permission to act on your
    behalf! Read the "Courts By Contract"
    section in this manual for further information.
    www.stopthepirates.blogspot.com

    Ani Jan 30 02:15PM -0800 ^

    I just yesterday read that RED FRINGE on the flag indicates MARTIAL
    LAW (as distinct from martial-law).
    Please correct this if it is mis-info.
    Thanks for all the info, atexascash,
    Ani

    Ani Jan 30 02:25PM -0800 ^

    Is it a good idea to use the flag of our state?
    Is there some reason not to use the flag of another country?


Topic: Credit card
    Jason A Jan 30 09:33AM -0800 ^

    Just an update - I've not heard a peep out of NCO since this call
    almost a week ago. I have had a few calls from Capital One starting
    Friday morning, but I was at work. I was finally able to answer the
    phone this morning when they called. I did the whole "I am JASON's
    agent and authorized to business for JASON" and "only do business
    through mail" stuff. In the end he gave me an unsure "ok".

    I'm going to send a letter to Cap One and to NCO. Cap One letter will
    sort of be a debt validation deal (thanks to John for sending me some
    examples), and the other will be to NCO declining their offer to
    contract in writing.

    Jason A Jan 30 01:56PM -0800 ^

    So I got ANOTHER call, this time the guy was really pushing for me to
    identify myself as JASON. He asked what my name was. I said "Joe".
    "Your name is Joe?" "Sure." "I can't discuss this account with you
    since you are not on the account. No amount of "I am the authorized
    agent for JASON" was swaying him. I'll have to handle that
    differently next time. He was willing to do a C&D over the phone, but
    he wouldn't let me authorize it since I wasn't JASON. I'll just put
    up with them for a few more days until I can get the letter out.

    Hope you guys don't mind the play by play. I thought maybe something
    could be learned from this if other people are in the situation.

Topic: PURELY SEMANTICS
    Ani Jan 30 01:25PM -0800 ^

    CAVEAT EMPTOR:*

    It has come to my attention that the author of "Cracking the Code" has
    come into conflict with USGov/IRS and has been prosecuted for "tax
    fraud".
    >From what I have read here
    http://www.justice.gov/tax/prtax/Hendrickson_AmendedJudgPermInj.pdf
    http://www.justice.gov/usao/mie/press/2009/2009-10-27_phendrickson.pdf
    he made a big mistake, if this info is correct, the whole truth and
    nothing but the truth.

    >From my point of view, this is a warning (CAVEAT) to everyone that it
    is very important to be completely honest in our filings and not
    attempt to hide anything IF/WHEN we make CONTRACTS with the SYSTEM.
    Filing for income tax returns CONSTITUTES agreeing to a CONTRACT from
    what I understand.

    I do not necessarily believe any courts' decisions are above board or
    honest and my guess is that there are legitimate, BONA FIDE remedies
    to be found in "Cracking the Code" which have been called "frivolous
    filings" in the above judgments.
    Our gov has declared a lot of things "illegal" which are not real
    crimes and of course it will resist by any means necessary any
    attempts to remedy, since the bottom line of CORPORATIONS is PROFITS
    at any cost, including the inestimable costs of betraying integrity of
    any kind ("chop sueycide").
    (See also, KOL NIDRE in the Part I, Section 4 Glossary of "Cracking
    the Code".)

    I have been advised that I should not be promoting "Cracking the Code"
    in light of the above case and because
    "... BTW, he threw some of his friends under the bus, by secretly
    recording them for the Feds, in return for a plea bargain. Sounds like
    one helluva guy, don't he?"

    However, I have received no info verifying this so anything like this
    kind of accusation without proof is HEARSAY ...
    Even if it is true, it does not necessarily negate the value of the
    info in "Cracking the Code".
    IMO, the fact that the courts have gone after the author to make an
    example of him and discounted his book suggests that his info is
    prally all too "Close to Home" and they are scared, "fight or flight",
    which in this case means "bullying" and scaring SHEOPLE so as to
    CONTROL them.

    However, I also think it is important to not rely on only one source
    for how-to-do-it info.
    It is always a good practice to get a 'SECOND OPINION".
    I mainly recommend this book as a place to start to learn the
    LEGALESE.
    I do not presume to know anything about how to do the processes and I
    am not recommending that anyone do anything one way or the other,
    knowing full well that I am not an expert by any means in these
    matters.
    I am just a student sharing info with other students.

    We must each make our own decisions.
    I generally do not borrow from the system or accept "handouts" or do
    income tax filings at all, but they don't care about people like me
    because I make so little $$$.
    I think they are aware that they "owe" me more than I could ever "owe"
    them LOL and that it would be really stupid and counterproductive for
    them to come after people like me.

    ------------------------------------------------

    *I am not using CAPS herein consistently as meaning STRAW MEN stuff as
    atexascash does so well. I am using them for emphasis since this
    program allows no other type of font emphasis.

    CAVEAT EMPTOR:
    http://dictionary.law.com/Default.aspx?typed=Caveat&type=1
    BONA FIDE
    http://dictionary.law.com/Default.aspx?typed=bona%20fide&type=1

    ------------------------------------------------

    QUOTE:

    A major character flaw of modern Americans in general (that the entire
    UCC is designed to prey upon) is their propensity for accepting
    "loans" of credit ("something for nothing") and living beyond their
    means. The take of the credit-lending vampires would be
    significantly diminished if people stopped asking for hand-outs
    (borrowing, using credit,) and began surviving strictly through their
    own efforts and living within their means. This might mean a
    temporary reduction in standard of living, but at least one would be
    on solid ground financially, living within reality, and free of the
    inherent fear of default, foreclosure, and financial ruin that is part
    and parcel with "keeping up with the Joneses." THE SYSTEM CANNOT
    EASILY DOMINATE THOSE WHO DO NOT BORROW.** Some wise words from
    William Shakespeare's Hamlet appearing in the front of this book are
    re-quoted here:

    "Neither a borrower nor a lender be:
    For loan oft loses both itself and friend,
    And borrowing dulls the edge of husbandry."97

    97 Husbandry (OE hus house + bonda freeholder): Economy; thrift.
    Shakespeare Lexicon and Quotation Dictionary.

    UNQUOTE

    Cracking the Code, p 35 of 36 ... (AApdf 71) ...

    ------------------------------------------------

    **EMPHASIS ADDED BY ME HERE

    Ani

Topic: creditorology
    Rae396hz Jan 30 12:22PM -0800 ^

    Blog.creditorology.com

Topic: JERRY KANE CALL TODAY
    Donna Lee Jan 30 11:51AM -0800 ^

    Hello darlings,



    CONFERENCE CALL TODAY WITH JERRY KANE !!! 2pm PST, 5pm EST. Call in
    number: (218) 844-0850 code: 319336 [might need to push # after the
    code] Topic: Foreclosures and also subject matter which will also
    encompass our brothers and sisters on the other side of the pond. I'll
    be on the call, so you be there too!




    Donna Lee
    www.NotaryPresenters.com

Topic: gmac still has not validated
    creditorsincommerces Jan 30 10:49AM -0800 ^

    ok guys after several attempts gmac still has not validated this debt.
    Back in nov i sent them a debt val letter they did not anwser all the
    questions in the letter they sent the deed of trust and also the
    alloged to the promissory and the adjustable rate note. After sending
    them another debt val letter they sent the same thing again well for
    the last time i sent the last debt val letter they sent me a letter
    yesterday saying they since i have failed to my acc may be referred to
    an attorney and the forclosure will be reported to the irs i now this
    is just an offer i am just looking for any suggestions on what to say
    back . any help will be great.

    Creditwrench Jan 30 11:48AM -0800 ^

    The first mistake is that GMAC is an original lender and therefore is
    not subject to FDCPA and do not have to "validate" a debt or even
    respond to a debt collection letter. They might be subject to state
    consumer protection laws but they are not subject under federal law.

    In my personal opinion (for whatever that's worth) I think that it is
    better to ask them no questions at all. Just tell them you demand they
    validate the debt and let them take it from there. They are supposed
    to be professionals and know what that means under the law and if they
    are not professionals or choose to break or ignore the law then let
    them pay the price whatever that might be.

    So now they want to foreclose eh? The first line of defense against a
    foreclosure action is get a mortgage fraud audit from a reputable
    fraud auditor. That may produce some violations that you can use as
    causes of action against them. Another important consideration is
    whether you live in a judicial or non-judicial state. If you live in a
    non-judicial state you will have to file your federal case and then
    use that as a reason to ask for temporary relief from their
    foreclosure in local court. If you live in a non-judicial state it is
    much tougher to keep the wolves at bay. There are some new federal
    laws that will also help forestall foreclosure which you should learn
    about. What to say next may very well be nothing at all or it may be
    any one of several other possibilities. We simply don't have enough
    facts yet to be able to give you good solid information and help.
    Above all I'd suggest getting a mortgage fraud audit from a reputable
    auditor. I like to use Norm Bradford in Maryland. He is cheap but he
    can get you his results within 7 days most of the time. That would
    probably give you the causes of action you need to take them to
    federal court or sue in local court, whichever would be most
    appropriate for your state and situation. Norm is an attorney as well
    as a mortgage fraud analyst. He is good and really knows what he is
    talking about.


Topic: your BERTH certificate
    atexascash Jan 30 11:01AM -0800 ^

    In 1921, the federal Sheppart-Towner Maternity Act created the birth
    "registration" or what we now know
    as the "Birth Certificate". It was known as the "Maternity Act" and
    was sold to the American people as a
    law that would reduce maternal and infant mortality, protect the
    health of mothers and infants, and for
    "other purposes". One of those other purposes provided for state
    agencies in overseeing of it's operations
    and expenditures. What it really did was create a federal "birth
    registry' which exists today, creating
    "FEDERAL CHILDREN" . This government of "Parents Patriae”, now
    legislates for American children
    as if they are owned by the federal government. Through the public
    school enrollment process and
    continuing license requirements for most aspects of daily life, these
    children grow up to be adults
    indoctrinated into those things necessary to carry our activities that
    exist in what is call a "free country”.
    Before 1921, the records of births and names of children were entered
    into the family bibles, as were the
    records of marriages and deaths. These records were readily accepted
    by both the family and the law as
    "official records”. Since 1921, the American people have been
    registering the births and names of their
    children with the government of the state in which they are born, even
    though there is no federal law
    requiring it. The state tells you that registering your child's birth
    through the birth certificate serves proof
    that he/she was born in the united States, thereby making him/her a
    United States Citizen. For the past
    several years a social security number has been mandated by the
    federal government to be issued at birth.
    The social security number is one of those "other purposes". It serves
    as a means of lifelong tracking of
    the one whose name is on the birth certificate.
    In 1933, the united States of America (Corporate Government) was
    declared bankrupt by President
    Roosevelt. The governors of the then 48 States pledged the "full faith
    and credit" of each of their States,
    including the CITIZENRY AS COLLATERAL, for loans of credit from the
    Federal Reserve System.
    To wit; "FULL FAITH AND CREDIT” the clause of the U.S. Constitution
    (Article IV, Section 1) which
    provides that the various states must recognize legislative acts,
    public records, and judicial decisions of
    the other states within the united States. It requires that foreign
    judgment be given such faith and credit as
    it had by law or usage of state of it's origin. That foreign statutes
    are to have force and effect to which
    they are entitled in home state. And that a judgment of record shall
    have the same FAITH, CREDIT
    CONCLUSIVE EFFECT, and obligatory force in other states as it has by
    law or usage in the state from
    whence taken. Black's Law Dictionary, Fourth Edition, and Sixth
    Edition (page 672), cites omitted.

    www.stopthepirates.blogspot.com

Topic: How do I change email address where I receive group mail ?????
    captmoonlight 4dam4@sbcglobal.net Jan 30 10:48AM -0800 ^

    Hi All,

    I have been to edit my membership, help..... and I have found no way
    to change my email address, other than unsubscribe and create new
    membership. Any help would be appreciated.

Topic: Post Office
    atexascash Jan 30 10:33AM -0800 ^

    Use of the Zip is voluntary. See Domestic Regulations. Section 122.32
    as amended. You should
    also know that the Postal service cannot discriminate against the non-
    use of the Zip Code. See
    "Postal Reorganization Act ", Section 403, (Public Law, 91-375). The
    federal government
    utilizes the ZIP code to prove that you reside in a “federal district
    of the District of Columbia”.
    This is why the IRS and other government agencies (state and federal)
    require a Zip code when
    they assert jurisdiction by sending you a letter. They claim that this
    speeds the mail, but this is a
    sly and subtle TRICK. It is also prima facie evidence that you are a
    subject of Congress and a
    "citizen of the District of Columbia " who is "resident " in one of
    the several states.
    The receipt of mail with a ZIP code is one of the requirements for the
    IRS to have jurisdiction to
    send you notices. The government cannot bill a Citizen of Texas,
    because he is not within the
    purview of the MUNICIPAL LAWS of the District of Columbia. In fact,
    the Internal Revenue
    Service has adopted the ZIP code areas as Internal Revenue Districts.
    See the Federal Register,
    Volume 51, Number 53, Wednesday March 19, 1986.
    You must remember that the Postal Service is a private corporation, a
    quasi-government agency.
    It is no longer a full government agency. It is like the Federal
    Reserve System, the Internal
    Revenue Service, and the United States and the United States Marshall
    Service. They are all
    outside the restrictions of the Federal Constitution, as private
    corporations. They are all powerful
    in their respective areas of responsibility, to enforce collection for
    the federal debt. So, if you are
    using a ZIP code, you are in effect saying openly and notoriously that
    you do not live in the State
    of Texas, etc, but instead are a resident in the Texas area of the
    District of Columbia (a federal
    district). There are some so-called Patriot groups that I consider
    Patriots for money. They
    advocate the use of Title 42 suits (which are for federal citizens
    only), send mail to you with a
    ZIP code, and ask you to do things that place you within the municipal
    jurisdiction of the District
    of Columbia.
    Remember these individuals may be agents of the government or, even
    worse, are advocating a
    one world government by the use of the Social Security number and the
    ZIP code.
    So you must be aware of the movement towards a one world government
    through annihilation or
    elimination of State Citizens by use of the so-called 14th Amendment
    and its related laws.
    It is this writer's opinion, both as a result of study, e.g. of page
    11 of the National Area ZIP code
    Directory, of 26 U.S.C. 7621, of Section 4 of the Federal Register,
    Volume 51, Number 53, of
    (TDO) 150-01; of the opinion in United States v LaSalle National Bank,
    437 U.S. 298, 308, 98, 5
    Ct 2d 2357, 571. Ed. 2d 221 (1978); of 12 U.S.C. 222; of 31 U.S.C.
    103, and as a result of My
    actual experience, that a ZIP code address is presumed to create a
    "Federal jurisdiction " or
    “market venue” or “revenue districts” that override State boundaries,
    taking one who uses such
    modes of address outside of a State venue and its constitutional
    protections and into an
    international, commercial venue involving admiralty concerns of the
    "United States ", which is a
    commercial corporation domiciled in Washington, D. C.

    www.stopthepirates.blogspot.com

Topic: Actual Court Experience
    Tim Shipper Jan 30 11:53AM -0600 ^

    Hi,

    Thank you posting these videos. I have a court case coming up soon, and I
    want to do a similar thing that you have done in your case. My question is,
    what should I do if I get to inspect the original charging instrument? What
    exactly should I write on it? I've listened to most of the audio sessions on
    the CIC website, but I'm having trouble finding the specific parts in the
    audio where it deals with this issue. Thank you

    On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 12:58 PM, phlippermerlin

    phlippermerlin Jan 30 09:56AM -0800 ^

    This is what I should have done.
    Also, 4 parts. Scroll down after watching part 1 and you will see 2
    through 4 on the bottom right.
    http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/6031743/

Topic: TRAVELING IN MY AUTOMOBILE
    Bob Jan 30 09:18AM -0800 ^

    If your goal is to educate the policy enforcers, why not let him keep
    it? I didn't check all those cites, so it would be really comical if
    he agreed with your position, only to find out later if they were all
    bogus. If I were trolling for liens I wouldn't be giving out so much
    information, and the length of the document may be regarded as evasive
    and obstructionist by some enforcers. A shorter document with a second
    page entitled "Additional Cites" might be more efficient in achieving
    the goal of simply being left alone. The verbiage I added was
    certainly incomplete and done very off-the-cuff, and I personally
    don't feel adequately prepared for the sort of confrontation that your
    process may lead to. I hope you've been through all the materials,
    including Gordon Hall's contract lectures, so you'll be able to avoid
    coming under anyone's jurisdiction. Further, I hope you'll be fully
    observant of all the details of the process of claim perfection so
    that you'll be easily able to achieve some tangible compensation for
    the years we've all suffered under this monstrous confidence scam
    loosely referred to as the government.

Topic: An alternative to Google: "Scroogle"
    "Mr.Zeph" Jan 30 08:48AM -0500 ^

    On 2010-01-29, at 9:30 PM, Ani wrote:
    > Sorry, I see my question was not clear---specifically I was wondering
    > about ENCRYPTION, esp how to do it.

    Why: Google tracks you. It remembers your IP address (the computer
    address from which your computer connects and is tracable to your
    account), your keyword searches, etc. When you search using Scroogle,
    IT searches Google, thus, all of your searches are attributed to
    Scroogle.

    Encryption: basic SSL. You need do nothing other than type https://
    instead of http:// It tells your browser to use the built-in
    encryption mechanism between the browser and Scroogle so that if
    anyone intercepts your traffic (keyword submission) between the
    browser and Scroogle, they won't be able to decipher it. This is the
    same mechanism that one witnesses when we shop e-commerce stores online.

    Hope this helps.

    "Mike (Onquest)" Jan 30 06:49AM -0800 ^

    If you want full encryption i.e. for email communication and to
    encrypt your computer then check into pgp. It is freeware. They give
    you 30 days of a license so you can see what the paid version is like
    then it goes back to freeware. Hope that answered your question a
    little better. The program comes with pdf's to explain how to use etc.
    Mike Jansen


Topic: Friday night conference call.
    Creditwrench Jan 30 05:52AM -0800 ^

    Colin, what makes you believe that I have anything to do with that
    site?
    What makes you think that I have the power to do anything about it?
    There are other blogs out there that I also wish I had the power to do
    something about but I don't. There are also newsgroup postings that I
    wish I had the power to do something about but I don't. I wish I had
    the power to keep somebody from infecting my web site with malicious
    code but obviously I don't.

Topic: Canada under D.C.
"Mr.Zeph" Jan 30 08:36AM -0500 ^

On 2010-01-28, at 1:56 PM, of the one sovereign sentient wrote:
> so me thinks the CRA is an arm of the IRS now...
> just perspective
> not the name, without prejudice, for entertainment purposes only

Can you back that up with specific documentation? I've had that
intuition for a long time, I've not looked into it myself, but if you
have it, I'm willing to bet that other Canadians would be interested.