Saturday, January 16, 2010

Creditors-in-commerce daily digest for 01/15/2010

Updates to creditors in commerce


  • Jerry Kane on AFV [1 Update]
  • I got a way that worked for me ---Sued by Hospital. Any help? [1 Update]
  • session #3 Birth Certificate Bond [1 Update]
  • [uccredemption] Wow! Proof U.S. is a corporation [1 Update]
  • Edward Mandell House [2 Updates]
  • how to access my ss# account and pay debts [1 Update]
  • Effect of A4V on a perfected claim [2 Updates]
  • Power of Attorney [2 Updates]
  • origin/ usage of term "TRUE BILL IN COMMERCE" [1 Update]
  • PLEASE SEND ORGANIZATION WRITE UP [1 Update]
  • LIEN AN AUTO [1 Update]
  • Becoming a Creditor: Window of opportunity will close: Meaning??? [2 Updates]
Topic: Jerry Kane on AFV
    cdsea10 Jan 16 02:07AM -0800 ^

    can you put a link to the web page to download the file... thanks

Topic: I got a way that worked for me ---Sued by Hospital. Any help?
    reporteroad@aol.com Jan 16 04:24AM -0500 ^

    I responded to a similar case like this and won:

    Filed with court with a promisory note,
    named the judge fiduciary (Form 56),
    filed a Notice of Appointment of Fiduciary Trustee,
    Notice of Acceptance of Oath of Office and Bond, Filed a
    Verified Judicial Notice and Undertaking, and Letter Rogatory.
    The front page of the filing was the killer one.
    It consisted of a hand-written Notice of Settlement of Demand for
    Payment with Promissory Note.
    This last one it simply said:
    "Notice to Agent is Notice to Principal, Notice to Principal is Notice to
    Agent.
    Now, by Special Appearane, Marvin Ramirez tendered full payment to
    purported
    Creditor Angeles Rodriguez and Attorney for Plaintiff Stephen M. Kappos.
    I order this Court to settle this account.
    Signed and dated.
    This included proof of service.

    This happened after the lawyer won judgment to force me to hand him in all
    last three years of commercial activities of my business and myself. For the
    Plaintiff was $1,650, and $4,500 for her attorney.
    After having been ordered to give them my contracts, business licenses,
    ficticious names, cars pink slips, etc, I had to do nothing.
    Two months later, the lawyer tried to intimidate me by sending me a copy of
    the court order/judgement that forced me to pay the lawyer, I sent it back A4V
    and copy of my TRADE NAME Certificate, prohibiting him and impossing a schedule
    fee if he ever used my name again. The fee was $10,000 per breach. I never
    heard from him again.

    Let me know if you're interested in pursuing this strategy, and I would be
    happy to fax you what I did. But please write me back at marvinrami@aol.com for
    better response.

    marvin ramirez

Topic: session #3 Birth Certificate Bond
    googlegroupmember Jan 16 01:19AM -0800 ^

    mcsilver - I concur with ubiquitousme. Thanks for bringing this up
    because i asked before and no one replied. im not letting that stop
    me. it wouldnt be right.

    the document says what it is you want to do. if they don't reply in 72
    hours or 21 or 30 days, stating imperfection, it is done.

    if you are like me there i no one who will alllow me to use their
    name, and i wouldn't ask them. if there's a problem with the amount i
    wrote

    person authorized to administer oaths by the law who is that ? the
    bailiff, the notary, the sheriff, the judge whoever by law is
    authorized to administer oaths

    (b) A protest is a certificate of dishonor made by a United States
    consul or vice consul, or a notary public or other person authorized
    to administer oaths by the law of the place where dishonor occurs. It
    may be made upon information satisfactory to that person. The protest
    must identify the instrument and certify either that presentment has
    been made or, if not made, the reason why it was not made, and that
    the instrument has been dishonored by nonacceptance or nonpayment. The
    protest may also certify that notice of dishonor has been given to
    some or all parties.

    the worst that can happen is i blew 13 bucks for registered mail and
    15 for the certified copy

    all the other information just identifies the parties and the
    certificate - its even unclear that the AFV is necessary on the BC,
    since you are sending it with the bond for setoff - buy why not ? you
    are who you are - Respectfully, Lou

Topic: [uccredemption] Wow! Proof U.S. is a corporation
    Message Base Jan 16 12:55AM -0800 ^

    And I thought THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA was a Delaware corporation.

    LMAO

    --Dale

Topic: Edward Mandell House
    onijunbei Jan 15 10:17PM -0800 ^

    Edward Mandell House had this to say in a private meeting with
    President Woodrow Wilson:



    “[Very] soon, every American will be required to register their
    biological property in a national system designed to keep track of the
    people and that will operate under the ancient system of pledging. By
    such methodology, we can compel people to submit to our agenda, which
    will effect our security as a chargeback for our fiat paper currency.
    Every American will be forced to register or suffer being unable to
    work and earn a living. They will be our chattel, and we will hold the
    security interest over them forever, by operation of the law merchant
    under the scheme of secured transactions.

    Americans, by unknowingly or unwittingly delivering the bills of
    lading to us will be rendered bankrupt and insolvent, forever to
    remain economic slaves through taxation, secured by their pledges.
    They will be stripped of their rights and given a commercial value
    designed to make us a profit and they will be none the wiser, for not
    one man in a million could ever figure our plans and, if by accident
    one or two should figure it out, we have in our arsenal plausible
    deniability. After all, this is the only logical way to fund
    government, by floating liens and debt to the registrants in the form
    of benefits and privileges. This will inevitably reap to us huge
    profits beyond our wildest expectations and leave every American a
    contributor to this fraud which we will call “Social Insurance.”
    Without realizing it, every American will insure us for any loss we
    may incur and in this manner, every American will unknowingly be our
    servant, however begrudgingly. The people will become helpless and
    without any hope for their redemption and, we will employ the high
    office of the President of our dummy corporation to foment this plot
    against America.”

    Message Base Jan 15 10:33PM -0800 ^

    Re "Edward Mandell House had this to say in a private meeting with President
    Woodrow Wilson" ... interesting, if true ... certainly, it's conceivably
    true

    --Dale


Topic: how to access my ss# account and pay debts
    Max K Jan 15 10:16PM -0800 ^

    What's wrong with a4ving your bills to IRS?

    Sent from my iPhone

Topic: Effect of A4V on a perfected claim
    Anne Jan 15 06:05PM -0800 ^

    Karen,

    I, myself, am too new to all of this to answer your question, but I
    would love your contact info so that I can work with you as my Notary,
    if that's ok?

    Thanks,
    Anne
    lenaye@maine.rr.com

    Max K Jan 15 10:14PM -0800 ^

    Did they have to answer questions point for point or show evidence
    point for point? If they they responded but did not respond point for
    point then even though they sent you something it is considered a non
    response and you should go forward with your claim.

    If they did respond point for point then a4v it....

    But remember I no nothing.

    Sent from my iPhone

Topic: Power of Attorney
    Tweeze916 Jan 15 08:42PM -0800 ^

    I just need to get a POA printed up so I can take over for things for
    my brother does anybody have one I can use?


    Thanks in advance

    Max K Jan 15 10:07PM -0800 ^

    Poa can be for many different things. Ie: full poa, limited poa.
    Decide exactly what you want to take power over and do a couple of
    rough drafts. Your best knowledge is to learn legal docs and do them
    yourself. You find true knowledge and power throught that knowledge.

    Sent from my iPhone

Topic: origin/ usage of term "TRUE BILL IN COMMERCE"
    taranova Jan 15 09:28PM -0800 ^

    What does true bill mean?


Topic: PLEASE SEND ORGANIZATION WRITE UP
    Bob Jan 15 09:06PM -0800 ^

    Thanks Bruce

    On Dec 10 2009, 4:21 am, "Bruce Meyers"
    wrote:

Topic: LIEN AN AUTO
    james darby Jan 15 06:49PM -0800 ^

    tim turner paper work thats what you are doing basically liening whatever is yours if they want it pay the lien and you can have it

    --- On Wed, 1/13/10, Max Hemmingway wrote:

    From: Max Hemmingway
    Subject: [creditors-in-commerce] Re: LIEN AN AUTO
    To: "Creditors in Commerce"
    Date: Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 8:14 AM

    Putting a lien on a vehicle of any kind is simple. We do it all the
    time for people who have judgments against them. Each state has it's
    own forms for doing this. We simply have people who want to protect
    their vehicles get a standard form from their department of motor
    vehicles or most any used car dealer and a release of lien form and
    then we fill it out and send it in. Then we send the release of lien
    form signed by us back to the person and they can file it at any time.
    This protects them from anything that might happen to us in the future
    and also guarantees them that we will not be able to go take their
    vehicle for any reason even if we wanted to which of course we don't.

    You can't lien your own vehicle and if you "sell" it to someone else
    such as a family member or a friend your judgment creditors can get it
    reversed. Since we are a corporation they can't claim that you are
    trying to hide assets. You get a real loan document copy so you can
    show it to judgment creditors or any court of law and prove that your
    vehicle isn't free and clear so they can't take it.
    Of course, our liens are always for at least double what the vehicle
    is worth so if they did get stupid and grab it without checking we
    would go after them for the full amount of the lien and they would
    have to pay us before they could dispose of the vehicle. We would then
    remit the amount we got from them to you and you could then go out and
    buy an even better vehicle than what they took.

    Of course, not to worry about that because no judgment creditor is
    dumb enough to grab a vehicle without first checking to see if it is
    free and clear or not. We have the perfect hidey-hole for those with
    judgments against them. Of course, it is much better if you get your
    hidey-hole in place before the judgment actually happens.

http://www.mysexydevices.com
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Topic: Becoming a Creditor: Window of opportunity will close: Meaning???
    "Mr.Zeph" Jan 15 08:52PM -0500 ^

    > always an interpretation of each individual....would you agree?).

    > braindead after half a day of conference calls, forgive the semi-
    > coherent ramble...

    The only perspective I'm trying to bring across that the answer can be
    found with basic critical thinking skills and a bit of research. What
    is this window of opportunity? Offered by who? To who? Under what
    conditions? When was this "window of opportunity" presented? Can
    someone provide documentary evidence of this so-called "window of
    opportunity"? If so, I'm happy to look at the facts and evidence and
    come to a conclusion, but to the best of my knowledge this "window of
    opportunity" is just folklore from people in this movement. Honestly,
    I'm utterly stunned at how much is accepted at face value in this
    movement.

    I keep going back to my mantra that remedy to the issues that bug us
    are going to be simple, feet-on-the-ground, ordinary--banal, even,
    information. Remedy is found though simple and solid education, I
    think. Or at least the remedies that I'm going for are.

    Raam T Jan 15 06:09PM -0800 ^

    And I would offer for consideration that this would not fall into the
    category of questions
    for which our intellectual capacities are the appropriate ones of our range
    of capacities
    and that that doesn't mean it's just folklore. Even though it is probably
    covered in such.
    And acknowledging it as a possibility beyond reach of facts and critical
    thinking also
    does not mean one accepts it as fact or for face value - even though many
    might indeed
    do that, which I would agree would not be a functional approach.

    I am thus asking you to evaluate if you are being discerning enough or
    generalizing
    to an extend that doesn't pay justice to reality and thus wouldn't be
    functional either.

    Just food for thought...

    > going to be simple, feet-on-the-ground, ordinary--banal, even, information.
    > Remedy is found though simple and solid education, I think. Or at least the
    > remedies that I'm going for are.

    --
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