Monday, January 11, 2010

Creditors-in-commerce daily digest for 01/11/2010

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  • HAPPY NEW YEAR = ANYONE ELSE WANT A SIMPLE METHOD FOR ORGANIZING DOCUMENTS [2 Updates]
  • [No Subject] [1 Update]
  • Becoming a Creditor: Window of opportunity will close: Meaning??? [2 Updates]
  • Colorado's Ultimate Ski Bum Jailed [1 Update]
  • CHRISTIAN WALTERS LINK 7PM ET SAT [1 Update]
  • Wanted AFV success stories to be shared [1 Update]
  • Jurisdiction Question [2 Updates]
  • 1099-OID scams getting shut down by IRS [2 Updates]
  • Return To Sender [1 Update]
  • Rejection of Fiduciary Appointment [1 Update]
  • Lowering Credit Limit [1 Update]
  • You can a4v your BC but can you a4v your SScard and gain more control over Cestui Que Trust [1 Update]
Topic: HAPPY NEW YEAR = ANYONE ELSE WANT A SIMPLE METHOD FOR ORGANIZING DOCUMENTS
    Berticus Jan 10 09:12PM -0800 ^

    On Dec 31 2009, 6:47 pm, "Bruce Meyers"
    wrote:

    PopPopCraig Jan 10 11:05PM -0800 ^

    Hello Bruce,
    I am one ot those who did not receive your "Simple Way To Organize
    Documents." I would really appreciate your trying to send it again.
    THANKS,
    Craig

    On Dec 31 2009, 6:47 pm, "Bruce Meyers"
    wrote:

Topic: [No Subject]
    jorgecure thomas Jan 10 09:39PM -0800 ^

    Does anyone know how long it takes after you A4V the docs to the IRS does it take for them to contact the individual you A4V"ed, and pay them off? lets say your "local property tax collector"

Topic: Becoming a Creditor: Window of opportunity will close: Meaning???
    Manji Jan 10 08:53PM -0800 ^

    I am listening to an audio of Jack Smith at a retreat in Cleveland,
    2009 November, 11th. In the retreat, workshop, seminar, whatever you
    wanna call it, he said:

    "I believe we've go three years to turn yourself around and become a
    creditor, rather than a debtor. Because if you don't your window of
    opportunity will close."

    Why would that happen?

    I have my own imagination as why that would happen but, I would like
    hear everyone else's thoughts one why they think that would happen.

    Why would the window of opportunity to become a creditor would be
    closing somewhere in the near future say, 1-5 years. Jack put the
    window to close at 2012 or at least around that time.

    Do you even think the window of opportunity is even gonna close at
    all?

    Jack also talked about a situation where "they" are gonna come to our
    homes and tell us that they gotta take our homes and put us somewhere.

    How might that happen?

    Well, I have my own imagination as to how that might happen and if you
    interested, please free to ask. I'd be more than happy to share. But,
    I would like to hear everyone's thoughts about what Jack is talking
    about.

    Well, I wish everyone love and safety.

    Damean

    Loving Kindness

    Max Hemmingway Jan 10 09:27PM -0800 ^


    > Why would the window of opportunity to become a creditor would be
    > closing somewhere in the near future say, 1-5 years. Jack put the
    > window to close at 2012 or at least around that time.

    Strange. The ancient Mayan calendar predicted that the world would
    come to an end in December 2012. Nostradamus also predicted the end of
    the world in 2012. Several other studies and prophets have also
    predicted the end of the world in 2012. None of them seem to have any
    idea of how that is going to happen but there are no end of such
    predictions
    Could he have been reading the Mayan Calendar or Nostradamus?

    > Do you even think the window of opportunity is even gonna close at
    > all?

    We will all just have to wait and see, won't we?

    > Jack also talked about a situation where "they" are gonna come to our
    > homes and tell us that they gotta take our homes and put us somewhere.

    > How might that happen?

    If "they" were to do that then there would be no consumers to buy
    their goods and services and "they" would all go broke in a big hurry
    trying to support us. Even genocide such as Hitler tried costs a lot
    of money and was what actually ruined Germany's economy more than
    anything else. Had he put all those people to work instead of killing
    them he might have had a vibrant economy. Instead he killed off his
    work force and wasted Germany's resources in a useless war. I doubt
    "they" will be so stupid as to do anything like that.

Topic: Colorado's Ultimate Ski Bum Jailed
    mountainmark Jan 10 08:09PM -0800 ^

    This poor guy has been in a Georgetown,Colo jail for 57 days now for
    simply sleeping in his car at the ski resort. He faces 2 years in
    federal prison and $250,000 in fines. This guy's a land lubber skier
    out to hurt no one, and has no clue that his vessel in commerce has
    just been boarded by maritime pirates out for profit and booty! Any
    ideas on how to mount a defense or get this guy out (out to where I'm
    not sure)? BC and A4V the charges? Plead guilty and pay fine with
    pre-paid exemption? GSA forms? Ideas are needed! Thanks!

    http://www.9news.com/news/local/article.aspx?storyid=130495&catid=222

Topic: CHRISTIAN WALTERS LINK 7PM ET SAT
    John Ingress Jan 10 10:51PM -0500 ^

    I believe he points to one success, which he discusses briefly in the
    attached doc, "Creating trusts". It's what started him down this road.
    They were in court trying to stop a foreclosure, and they got it
    postponed. Here's what he says:
    . A practical example; a mortgage foreclosure case, where foreclosure
    sale was set before any documents had been filed, and the documents
    were prepared that expressed the trust in three lines and a footnote
    and case cites. The court construed the trust and appointed the
    trustee as defendant. Our “Notice of Interest” (a statement that we
    are expressing the trust), alleged that the defendant was the
    beneficiary now, not the trustee, as the court had construed. The sale
    was postponed two hours before it was set to go.
    We determined that the reasons for the postponement were 1) any time
    the trustee and the beneficiary are one and the same, the trust
    freezes, or terminates. The court construed or implied the trustee to
    be the defendant, where we came in and expressed the trustee to be the
    beneficiary, freezing the trust.
    2) More importantly, we filed the SOI, Statement of Interest, and that
    has to be filed within 30 days of claiming the NOI, because the NOI
    times out. This gives the court notice of a claim, so it could not
    give free and clear title with a notice of adverse claim
    SOI supports the fact that we are the grantor and the beneficiary.
    That case collapsed, disappeared. (The SOI is CCI, Confidential
    Commercial Information).
    [the other two doc's I just finished, for your enjoyment. As always,
    they are not verbatim, so, prima facia, can nay be construed as legal
    advice] P,S. ResisTyr, you are IN the pool, in the DEEP END, hopefully
    this is your/our lifeline.

Topic: Wanted AFV success stories to be shared
    Loving the truth Jan 10 07:51PM -0800 ^

    Congrats.... glad to hear good news.

Topic: Jurisdiction Question
    jman636 Jan 10 06:30PM -0800 ^

    Hi All,

    A quick question regarding jurisdiction with commercial processes. As
    indicated in the various classes, the public is "Disneyland" - an
    illusion where nothing works as it should; the land of color and
    nobility (inequity). Further, Jack or Brandon mention in one of the
    recent conferences that an Affidavit in the public is heresay...
    however in the private it carries full weight.

    So the question is: can a process perfected in/from the public be
    enforced as readily as one in/from the private? It would make sense
    given the background above that a public process could not be as
    readily enforced (in this case I refer to enforcement as the execution
    of a commercial lien). In what cases would one be better than the
    other? Certainly the IRS and others are able to perfect processes in
    the public - since obviously it's all contract. But if Affidavits in
    public are heresay, how could they ever create a solid foundation for
    a lien?

    Would love to hear from someone who has perfected a public or private
    process and executed a lien. I'm preparing to do my 1st.

    Namaste

    Eli Lilly Jan 10 10:41PM -0500 ^

    An affidavit is hearsay, if not recorded in the public, not dishonored, and not sworn by a public official such as a notary. Everything can be considered hearsay if its not given by the individual who has first hand knowledge. Ive rarely seen private processes work, but to each its on. Just make sure if you make a claim against the treasury/us that it be congruent with the Federal Claims Act.

    Subject: Jurisdiction Question

    Hi All,

    A quick question regarding jurisdiction with commercial processes. As
    indicated in the various classes, the public is "Disneyland" - an
    illusion where nothing works as it should; the land of color and
    nobility (inequity). Further, Jack or Brandon mention in one of the
    recent conferences that an Affidavit in the public is heresay...
    however in the private it carries full weight.

    So the question is: can a process perfected in/from the public be
    enforced as readily as one in/from the private? It would make sense
    given the background above that a public process could not be as
    readily enforced (in this case I refer to enforcement as the execution
    of a commercial lien). In what cases would one be better than the
    other? Certainly the IRS and others are able to perfect processes in
    the public - since obviously it's all contract. But if Affidavits in
    public are heresay, how could they ever create a solid foundation for
    a lien?

    Would love to hear from someone who has perfected a public or private
    process and executed a lien. I'm preparing to do my 1st.

    Namaste

Topic: 1099-OID scams getting shut down by IRS
    Jason A Jan 10 06:36PM -0800 ^

    He meant the "dolts" are the people that are jumping into OID
    processes without knowing exactly what they're doing and how to handle
    themselves.

    Max Hemmingway Jan 10 07:15PM -0800 ^

    . A "dolt" position is
    > not a fun one to be in. We spear headed the process and now this is
    > the thanks we are getting.
    You say "we spear headed the process" but that definitely begs the
    question of "Who gets the shaft?" Every spear has a shaft so who gets
    the shaft in this one? The answer is, of course, those who blindly
    follow the spearhead without doing any of their own research to find
    out how valid the thinking might be or what the consequences might
    be.

    Everyone languishing in Club Fed got in that position because they did
    the same thing. They failed to think. They failed to reason and they
    failed to do their own research. They blindly followed some spearhead
    and ened up getting the shaft.

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Topic: Return To Sender
    Richard Jan 10 07:14PM -0800 ^

    Can anyone offer text they have successfully used regarding "Return To
    Sender" when one does not what to contract with the Sender? I presume
    RETURN TO SENDER would be written on the envelope, what if anything is
    written on the offer? Thanks for the help.

    jman636 Jan 10 06:45PM -0800 ^

    I really don't know where you are coming from on all of this and am
    trying to understand the situation here. You realize of course that
    the president of your HOA can't cash in that A4V anymore than you can.
    Knowing this, aren't you dishonoring the original contract (I assume
    there was one)? The reason we use judges, CFOs, IRS and the like is
    because most of these people know exactly what to do with A4Vs. Put
    yourself in the shoes of this guy. Has he not taken responsibility to
    collect and appropriate funds for the betterment of the community? Did
    you not agree to this at some point? How exactly do you feel justified
    in dishonoring this/these individual(s)? Do you believe these
    technologies are intented for us to all run around being irresponsible
    and derelict in our duty to the communities in which we live? Forgive
    me because I don't know the story here - I'm just going on the
    information I have. Please help us understand what this is about. It
    sounds like you are trying to perfect a process on someone who trying
    to honor his responsibilities to the community... and from his
    perspective you just gave him a bag of dirt and a xerox'd $500
    Monopoly bill. Imagine when it's payday (assuming you work and receive
    a paycheck) your boss came up to you and said "here's your paycheck...
    it's an A4V... have a nice day. If you don't like it, argue and I'll
    lien you up". Is that who we are?

    Namaste.

Topic: Lowering Credit Limit
    Jason A Jan 10 06:40PM -0800 ^

    The lowering can be done because your acceptance of the card terms
    permitted them to do it. It's in there, I've looked. But I would say
    yes, you can always conditionally accept changes in the contract. It
    may not do any good unless you find some way to enforce it though.

Topic: You can a4v your BC but can you a4v your SScard and gain more control over Cestui Que Trust
    Natty Jan 10 06:34PM -0800 ^

    Greetings All,

    I was thinking that maybe a4ving the sscard will give you more control
    over the cestui que account and make the reality of getting every a4v
    approved increase. Is this possible? Anyone try it? Maybe you can do a
    bond with it like the BC but just change the numbers etc?

    Peace,
    Isatu


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