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Creditors-in-commerce daily digest for 01/17/2010


  • 1099 OID discussion Tues Jan. 19 W/ Kevin Dashner [1 Update]
  • stop email [1 Update]
  • stop incoming email [1 Update]
  • URGENT - $5000 Penalty from IRS [1 Update]
  • Mortgage Fraud Site [1 Update]
  • Reversing a judgment? [2 Updates]
  • keys to freedom the Trust [1 Update]
  • Are mortgages fraud? [2 Updates]
  • Redeeming A4V'd invoices [2 Updates]
  • OID Dangers versus Gains [2 Updates]
  • Notary Aceptor [2 Updates]
  • Invitation to connect on LinkedIn [2 Updates]
  • Fw: Re: Foreclosure Solutions [1 Update]
  • Myown personal IRS agent : ) [1 Update]
  • Contact info for Canadian David Butterfield? [2 Updates]
  • STOPPED AUCTION COLD [1 Update]
  • Contact info: Commerce Through Capitalism Letter [1 Update]
  • Free Money! [1 Update]
Topic: 1099 OID discussion Tues Jan. 19 W/ Kevin Dashner
    Lucia Chen Jan 16 06:16PM -0800 ^

    Need help here. Last week I received a $5000 penalty from IRS
    forfrivolous filing of 2005 1040x with 1099OID's. Somebody
    suggestedthat I A4V the $5000 and do an amended return by deleting
    Schedule A,which is the deductions. Any inputs on this? Can I simply
    do anamended return without the A4V? It looks like A4V's have not
    beenvery successful... Here is how it came about:Received FF letter
    3176C in July 2009, responded in 30 days withconditional acceptance
    with proof of claim....... Received noresponse and called the IRS Jan
    4th 2010 asking for status. IRSstated that they sent another letter
    numbered 3175C (which is anotherFF letter) end of Oct 2009, which I
    never received. Few days after mycall to them on Jan 4th, I received
    the Notice of Penalty of $5000.

Topic: URGENT - $5000 Penalty from IRS
    Lucia Chen Jan 16 06:08PM -0800 ^

    Need help here. Last week I received a $5000 penalty from IRS for
    frivolous filing of 2005 1040x with 1099OID's. Somebody suggested
    that I A4V the $5000 and do an amended return by deleting Schedule A,
    which is the deductions. Any inputs on this? Can I simply do an
    amended return without the A4V? It looks like A4V's have not been
    very successful...

    Here is how it came about:
    Received FF letter 3176C in July 2009, responded in 30 days with
    conditional acceptance with proof of claim....... Received no
    response and called the IRS Jan 4th 2010 asking for status. IRS
    stated that they sent another letter numbered 3175C (which is another
    FF letter) end of Oct 2009, which I never received. Few days after my
    call to them on Jan 4th, I received the Notice of Penalty of $5000.

    Lucia

Topic: Mortgage Fraud Site
Topic: Reversing a judgment?
    Bruce Jackson Jan 16 03:08PM -0800 ^

    Hi again,
    Is their an administrative proceedure to deal with a collection agency that has already got a judgement through the county circuit court? They tried to garnish our checking account, but there was nothing in it. Still we got dinged with a bank charge and decided to close the account. I am currently working on trying to get a bank account with no ss#. If the bank refuses to open one, what is the most civil way to get my remedy? Do I need to apply as a resident alien? Can I have fun while doing this kind of stuff? Will I ever stop asking questions?
    Peace,
    Bruce

    james darby Jan 16 05:38PM -0800 ^

    i opened up an account a no interest barring account with wachovia i took in my w8ben that u can get off the irs.gov site push up forms and my (IDP) international driving permit as ID and opened the account it has no ss# attached with it

    --- On Sat, 1/16/10, Bruce Jackson wrote:


    From: Bruce Jackson
    Subject: [creditors-in-commerce] Reversing a judgment?
    Date: Saturday, January 16, 2010, 6:08 PM

    Hi again,
    Is their an administrative proceedure to deal with a collection agency that has already got a judgement through the county circuit court? They tried to garnish our checking account, but there was nothing in it. Still we got dinged with a bank charge and decided to close the account. I am currently working on trying to get a bank account with no ss#. If the bank refuses to open one, what is the most civil way to get my remedy? Do I need to apply as a resident alien? Can I have fun while doing this kind of stuff? Will I ever stop asking questions?
    Peace,
    Bruce
    --
Topic: keys to freedom the Trust
    onijunbei Jan 16 05:21PM -0800 ^

    This is my understanding( so far) and a bunch of questioning.

    The trustee(s) over your SS# bank and trust is the federal government
    (and/or Dept of Treasury). You are not the trustee over this trust.
    You are the grantor and beneficiary of the trust. Now having said
    that...

    Are you attempting to use 1041 for the above trust?

    Have you created a different trust? (Possibly using the drafts above)

    Who is responsible for filing a 1041 trust/estate return? Grantor,
    Trustee, or Beneficiary? the fiduciary?

    Indenture: Black's Law 9th(the jolly green giant edition) A formal
    written instrument made by two or more parties with different
    interests.

    Do you need an indenture? Really? Who are the two different parties?
    What are the different interests?

    Fiduciary: A person who is required to act for the benefit of another
    person on all matters within the scope of their relationship.
    Can you name the 2 people? Is the fiduciary the same as the trustee?

    Can a fiduciary and a beneficiary be the same person?

    When you go to sign a 1041 it states ...EIN of fiduciary if a
    financial institution.
    Is the fiduciary a financial institution?

    and right away in Box C it asks for a EIN. The EIN of the trust.

    just my 2 cents

Topic: Are mortgages fraud?
    Bruce Jackson Jan 16 02:51PM -0800 ^

    Hi everyone,
    I heard on one of the conference audios with Jack Smith that mortgages were not really fraudulent. That as trustees they are not obligated to tell us beneficiaries all the details about how they funded our application for a loan. But I hear that claiming fraud works because the banks can't prove its not fraud that they induced us to agree to pay for 30 years just out of appreciation for them handling our banking needs.
    But if asking them to prove they did not commit fraud works, then would they not be liable for all the payments that they have received under this agreement plus interest? And if they owed us all this money back, might there not be some leverage for convincing them just to let it go rather than owing us perhaps 10 times this amount in penalties for not helping us to get rid of the fraud once it was discovered?
    Or is there more success in using a private instrument to simply pay off the mortgage and then administrative processes to get them to acknowledge the payment and re-convey their alleged interest back to us?
    And who is the trustee that gets fired at what point in this process? I always here it mentioned without enough details.
    And assuming we get the best process figured out, am I still going to end up in court to show them that I merit a reward by calmly sticking to my claim while they try to provoke me to argument and trick me into their jurisdiction?
    I have some time to learn, but one never knows how much.
    Thanks always for all support.
    Bruce

    Donna Lee Jan 16 08:06PM -0500 ^

    Doesn't matter what Jack Smith says or what anybody else says. What do you believe to be true?

    I'll tell you and everybody else this:

    Yes, we agreed that they could sell the Note/Mortgage. But we never agreed that they could ALTER our Note in order to sell it. An agreement, once signed, that gets altered after the fact, is void. Altering after the fact, is Fraud.

    The Banks can't prove they didn't commit Fraud. Why? Because they will never open up their books and admit/answer your RESPA or CADV questions point-by-point which would outright prove the Fraud. If they had nothing to hide, why I ask you, wouldn't they simply answer simple banking questions? Why won't they answer under their full commercial liability? Why won't they answer under penalty of perjury? Why won't they prove and show evidence of your wet ink signature Promissory Note? Because they don't have it. And I guarantee you, they have very good 'Art Departments.' Yet more Fraud.

    I stopped listening to people a long time ago who place the blame squarely on us, and seem to praise/protect these Entities that have been sucking us dry for so long. You want evidence of the Fraud? Look at your PN where when you're sitting at the closing table, it says 'In exchange for a loan that I have received'. Did you receive a loan before you signed your closing papers? I know I didn't. Look at your Truth in Lending RESPA paper. It states the Dollar amount your Credit will cost you. There is so much Fraud in there it's ridiculous.

    Never let anyone sway you either way, all the evidence is within your reach. One terminology of getting your monies/credit back is called Administrative Overpays. If you're overpaying, isn't that Fraud too?


    Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 14:51:45 -0800
    From: bruce.jeanette@yahoo.com
    Subject: [creditors-in-commerce] Are mortgages fraud?
    To: creditors-in-commerce@googlegroups.com

    Hi everyone,
    I heard on one of the conference audios with Jack Smith that mortgages were not really fraudulent. That as trustees they are not obligated to tell us beneficiaries all the details about how they funded our application for a loan. But I hear that claiming fraud works because the banks can't prove its not fraud that they induced us to agree to pay for 30 years just out of appreciation for them handling our banking needs.
    But if asking them to prove they did not commit fraud works, then would they not be liable for all the payments that they have received under this agreement plus interest? And if they owed us all this money back, might there not be some leverage for convincing them just to let it go rather than owing us perhaps 10 times this amount in penalties for not helping us to get rid of the fraud once it was discovered?
    Or is there more success in using a private instrument to simply pay off the mortgage and then administrative processes to get them to acknowledge the payment and re-convey their alleged interest back to us?
    And who is the trustee that gets fired at what point in this process? I always here it mentioned without enough details.
    And assuming we get the best process figured out, am I still going to end up in court to show them that I merit a reward by calmly sticking to my claim while they try to provoke me to argument and trick me into their jurisdiction?
    I have some time to learn, but one never knows how much.
    Thanks always for all support.
    Bruce

Topic: Redeeming A4V'd invoices
    Cap1sucks Jan 16 03:55PM -0800 ^

    Yes, you can have a friend sue you but you need to be very careful to
    have your friend provide you with an undated but signed before notary
    release of judgment. He may be your friend and the most trustworthy
    person on the face of the earth but all of that does not negate the
    possibily that he may be called upon to help push up daisies and of
    course he would have no choice but to start pushing from 6 feet under.
    That call might come from the horn of a speeding 18 wheeler or a
    freight train or some other un-foreseeable accident or other causes
    and if something should happen to your friend you would be stuck with
    a judgment that you could not get rid of until the statute of
    limitations ran out and it was no longer a valid judgment. That could
    take a very long time depending on what state you live in, maybe as
    much as 20 years in some states.

    Then if your debt is to the IRS and they don't accept your A4V they
    can still come after you and no judgment is going to withstand an
    attack by the IRS. If you owe the IRS a good bit of money the court
    costs of getting a large judgment are not cheap and can run into
    several hundred dollars. There will also be the expense of getting you
    served.

    To make the venture even more risky you or your friend will have to
    know how to properly prepare and present the paperwork to the court or
    the court might reject the claim. We do that kind of thing in courts
    all across the country. We use lawyers to get the job done and it
    isn't cheap. We think we got a pretty good deal if we can get a lawyer
    to do the job for under $1500. Many want considerably more than that
    and even demand the right to bleed off up to 25% of the resultant
    garnishments on top of the high up front money they charge.

    We always have to provide proof of the claim as well and it must be
    carefully documented. Therefore we use two corporations. One the money
    is ostensibly owed to and the other to act as a debt collector. When
    it is done that way it looks to all and sundry like the real deal.

    Having a friend do it may work out and then it might not. If it didn't
    you would have spent at least $500 for nothing and maybe considerably
    more than that if you use an attorney to do it for you. An attorney
    would be cheap if s/he looked over your proofs of indebtedness before
    accepting the case and found them insufficient. Your friend won't be
    able to get the judgment unless he can prove the debt he claims you
    owe him.

    We had to set up our corporations, get the artwork done for the
    letterheads and envelopes, set up the accounting records, monthly
    billing statements, have our affidavits notarized by our in house
    notary public. We have to pay for access to data bases of attorneys
    nationwide, pay to have our (302) area code phones set up and working,
    we must have fax machines and other office equipment as well. It isn't
    cheap and if it isn't done right you will never get a judgment in the
    first place.


    http://www.mysexydevices.com
    http://docs.google.com/?pli=1#all
    http://tinyurl.com/ybevmte ------>Creditors-in-commerce links page
    http://sites.google.com/site/cap1sucks/
    Another great google group
    Synopsis of last 50 topics for this group

    (302) 360-8448
    Donna Lee Jan 16 07:49PM -0500 ^

    Hey Cap,


    Question for you:

    Since the Bank is a FICTION yet can be a Beneficiary, I'd like to hear your take on one of us using a FICTION as well, as a Beneficiary. I was thinking along the lines of my washing machine or my dishwasher, because they don't talk and won't reveal my secrets. What say you on this pops? Do you know if it's stated anywhere what FORM or SUBSTANCE a Beneficiary must take, that you are aware of?


    P.S. Don't mind me, I'm in a silly playful, thinking outside the box mood tonight :)

    > > against you for the amount of the debt. Take that judgement and A4V
    > > it via the IRS.
    > > Dan

Topic: OID Dangers versus Gains
    Christian Jan 16 03:00PM -0800 ^

    Hello All,
    I have spent over five hours a day studying and learning all of this
    data, pouring over references, etc. It's amazing what happens when a
    little bit of truth starts to show itself amongst the plethora of
    traps and dead end roads. In any case.
    I have been reading an incredible amount of warnings regarding filing
    one's 1099-OIDs for the last few weeks on this site. It was even
    posted been back in Feb of 09 on Winston Shrout's website that he no
    longer offers the 1099-OID seminar on DVD. I can obviously see how
    many people would be rushing to get their returns on their accounts.
    It's like doubling your income for the year. Many would like to file
    these but no-one is recommending it for anyone other than seasoned
    Creditor, but where can one really get all the data on it? Is there
    not anyone that has worked their way through this entangled maze that
    has a very successful system and that coaches people through the
    pitfalls of Frivolous Filings and threatening phone calls, etc?
    I am simply in a situation where my wife and I can no-longer file
    extensions on our 2007 taxes, will owe a good sum of money on them
    which we do not have. (Business has not been good to us since the
    midpoint of 2008.) Like many, we had a very profitable year that year
    so our bank accounts had a great deal of money go through them. So...
    Is it not worth a very solid crash course and an incredible amount of
    due diligence done now to preserve the finances now before they are
    lost? I have time... or should I say, I cannot afford not to make the
    time. Is there a 1099-OID Professional out there willing to do the
    education beyond what can be had here with Brandon's sessions?
    Thank you in advance for your replies,
    Christian

    Donna Lee Jan 16 07:37PM -0500 ^

    Christian,

    My heart goes out to you and your wife, brother. And everyone else in dire straits.

    If you'd like to give me a call, I'd be more than happy to tell you what I'd do in your situation.

    Donna Lee
    (727) 449-9419
    > education beyond what can be had here with Brandon's sessions?
    > Thank you in advance for your replies,
    > Christian

Topic: Notary Aceptor
    mcsilver Jan 16 02:04PM -0800 ^

    Hello
    I am also in Van Nuys. We used a guy named Sno down in Marina Del Rey.
    I believe you can get his number from the Freedom Notary referral on
    this board.
    Hope this helps,
    Christian

    Donna Lee Jan 16 07:33PM -0500 ^

    Here's Southern Ca Notary Presenter info. They are both GREAT!

    (SOUTHERN CAL)

    MARINA DEL RAY

    SNOHOMISH BROWN Member since 12/17/2009

    (310) 305-1324 (310) 902-7222

    rajakundalini@yahoo.com

    REDONDO BEACH

    CLAUDETTE RUNYAN Member since 1/15/2010 (310) 200-0966 cgrunyan@adelphia.net

    > > I'm looking for a Notary Aceptor in California, Van Nuys, San Fernando
    > > Valley

    > > Thanks for any sugestion

Topic: Invitation to connect on LinkedIn
Topic: Fw: Re: Foreclosure Solutions
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Topic: Myown personal IRS agent : )
    Bruce Jackson Jan 16 02:15PM -0800 ^

    Suggestions Welcome,
    An IRS agent left his card on my door in early December, so I called him up to see what's up. He was looking into our situation because we had paid thousands of dollars of mortgage interest which was reported by the lending institutions, while never filing or claiming any income since 1997. I now have 51% ownership of a corporation for the past year and a half, and lived on and built my home and biz on credit, never making enought to pay all the payment that were incurred along the way.
    So his very friendly offer is to help me catch up with filing from 2005-09. He just wanted me to provide all the info, both personal and biz for that period. He also told me that if I decided to go with bankrupsy to let him know and he would wait til it was over.
    Now if it wasn't for CIC and otherd info, I may have thought bankrupsy was a natural choice. But with the knowledge of private intruments, conditional acceptances, administrative processes, and discovering that the United States and the IRS are private corporations, I feel like dealing with everything as it comes. I admit I have done a sloppy incomplete job of it so far, but I'm learning fast.
    So, I was asked to provide a bunch of stuff to my friendly neighborhood IRS agent by Dec. 18, 2009. I didn't even open his packet til last week (been busy). Now I know that I need to make some kind of conditional acceptance, either to buy time or get him to leave me alone entirely. My feeling is to sweetly suggest that I would love to devulge all of the details of my personal finances and business finances to them, all I need is verification of the law or laws that give them the authority to force me to report any personal information with them, (What else should I ask for?) verification being in the form of sworn affidavit under the full commercial liabiltiy and so on.
    Or, should I say, "Here it all is. When you figure out how much I owe if any, please verify that with sworn affidavit, blah blah... And then pay them with an AFV?
    I was deposed pretty well by him in our first phone conversation which lasted about a half hour where I very candidly told him all how we had done so much without actually making a profit in our biz.
    So, total disclosure and cooporation or start asking questions and get them to leave me alone? What do you think?
    Many thanks, Bruce

Topic: Contact info for Canadian David Butterfield?
    Frank M Jan 16 01:24PM -0800 ^

    I've just discovered David Butterfield's stuff. I've heard his name
    floating around, but can't find anything on the web, until I recently
    ran into a video.

    This guy has done what it is that I intend to do, that is to research,
    provide evidence and a solid logical process for his process. He is
    Canadian, and his research is Canadian. Based on what I've seen in the
    video, he sells all of his research in a ring binder and I'd live to
    get my hands on it. That, and I'd like to talk to this guy too.

    If anyone has any information on how to contact David Butterfield, or
    an individual or organisation that works with him, can you please
    email me with the details?

    PS: My email is fully accessible for anyone who is a member of, and is
    logged on to this group. Google Groups only truncates the email for
    non-members.

    Thanks

Topic: STOPPED AUCTION COLD
    sharir2007@yahoo.com Jan 16 09:33PM ^

    I didn't mean to sound offended Donna. I guess I just wanted to assure the readers that I am standing my ground. One part I messed up on was not forcing the clerk to place my indemnity bond in the case files as insurance for the case.

    But believe me I am furious at what they are doing to me and others like me and I am determined to get my car back or new cars with no liens on them at their expense. Either way I am not giving up.

    I will research the Writ stuff and see how to apply it to my case.

    Thanks Donna.
    Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Donna Lee
    Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 15:47:15
    To:
    Subject: RE: [creditors-in-commerce] STOPPED AUCTION COLD

    Shari,

    My message was/is not to you and you alone. I speak to everyone as I try to get as much info out to as many as possible and if you look, you'll see my response went out to all, not just to you. I was not making an assumption about you or anyone else, I don't know you same as I don't know most here. I always try to help, nonetheless.

    Good luck
    Subject: Re: [creditors-in-commerce] STOPPED AUCTION COLD
    From: sharir2007@yahoo.com
    Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 19:14:17 +0000

    And that's exactly how I feel. When they took the car I said to myself there is no way I'm going to let them keep the car when they gave NOTHING for it. I was not taking it lying down and settling, however unlike them I went through the proper legal channels to move towards my remedy.

    I don't believe that being disgruntle is helpful at all. I show respect because I was raised that way and showing respect does not at all mean you will allow anyone to treat you any way they want or take whatever they want from you.

    You don't know what my attitude was in that court to make an assumption. But its obvious that I stood my ground enough to get a judge to recognize my position as the OWNER of the cars and set a date on the calendar to hear voice and let me tell my story and MAKE them (the credit union) DEFEND themselves against me now.Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
    From: Donna Lee
    Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 13:24:20 -0500To: ; Subject: RE: [creditors-in-commerce] STOPPED AUCTION COLD

    Most are in the same boat Shari. The Writ of Replevin is specifically designed to recoup your property. Do the Writs work? I can tell you I used a Writ of Corum Nobis and I've had complete Estoppel in a case where the Asst City Attorney was out for my blood.

    I can tell you that most everything is 99% attitude. But if you don't have the essential attitude ie. Knowing who you are, knowing you were/ARE the Creator of Government whose SOLE PURPOSE IS TO PROTECT AND MAINTAIN YOUR INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS, (Are they?) can you guarantee that you'll make it work? How can we know that you won't throw everything at the wall hoping something sticks which may lead to the Court believing you are of mixed mind?

    I make things work in Court because I won't accept any other outcome. Nothing else will do. I won't walk into a Court that we paid for, pay for all their salaries, the bench, the clerks, the recording equipment, the gallery seats, and defer to them. I don't rise for any of my employees ie. the judge/hearing officer/magistrate same as I wouldn't rise for my maid (no offense to maids!) You must see through the ridiculous mirage, cut straight to the chase. I call judges by their first name. If anyone is to be honourable, it is us, not them.

    > > not be used nor does it give arbitration instructions, which means any
    > > issues of payment between either party under contract should have been
    > > resolved in a court of law before any actions were taken.

Topic: Contact info: Commerce Through Capitalism Letter
    Jan 16 04:15PM -0500 ^

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Topic: Free Money!
    Jan 16 04:12PM -0500 ^

    Sure, check it out. But only a fool dismisses a possibility without
    checking it out.

    I believe that you have the possibility of creating your own reality. If
    you live in fear, and do not choose the possibility of having abundance,
    then you will see only scams in everything, and not experience abundance.
    If you choose to experience abundance, then possibilities to create
    abundance will come to you, and you will be able to experience the abundance
    that you create.

    Ask me a question and I will answer it. Label something as false, and I
    will let you sit in your belief.

    Dan
    ____

    From: Bill Hubbard [mailto:billrhubbard@gmail.com]
    Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 3:29 PM
    To: dan@stemtechlab.com

    Subject: Re: [creditors-in-commerce] Free Money!

    Be careful with this one. It looks like a scam. Go to google and search "
    as an aval". You will have a hit on the first page describing a new scam
    approach using the terminology. There just is no free lunch. Beware!

Saturday, January 16, 2010

Creditors-in-commerce daily digest for 01/15/2010

Updates to creditors in commerce


  • Jerry Kane on AFV [1 Update]
  • I got a way that worked for me ---Sued by Hospital. Any help? [1 Update]
  • session #3 Birth Certificate Bond [1 Update]
  • [uccredemption] Wow! Proof U.S. is a corporation [1 Update]
  • Edward Mandell House [2 Updates]
  • how to access my ss# account and pay debts [1 Update]
  • Effect of A4V on a perfected claim [2 Updates]
  • Power of Attorney [2 Updates]
  • origin/ usage of term "TRUE BILL IN COMMERCE" [1 Update]
  • PLEASE SEND ORGANIZATION WRITE UP [1 Update]
  • LIEN AN AUTO [1 Update]
  • Becoming a Creditor: Window of opportunity will close: Meaning??? [2 Updates]
Topic: Jerry Kane on AFV
    cdsea10 Jan 16 02:07AM -0800 ^

    can you put a link to the web page to download the file... thanks

Topic: I got a way that worked for me ---Sued by Hospital. Any help?
    reporteroad@aol.com Jan 16 04:24AM -0500 ^

    I responded to a similar case like this and won:

    Filed with court with a promisory note,
    named the judge fiduciary (Form 56),
    filed a Notice of Appointment of Fiduciary Trustee,
    Notice of Acceptance of Oath of Office and Bond, Filed a
    Verified Judicial Notice and Undertaking, and Letter Rogatory.
    The front page of the filing was the killer one.
    It consisted of a hand-written Notice of Settlement of Demand for
    Payment with Promissory Note.
    This last one it simply said:
    "Notice to Agent is Notice to Principal, Notice to Principal is Notice to
    Agent.
    Now, by Special Appearane, Marvin Ramirez tendered full payment to
    purported
    Creditor Angeles Rodriguez and Attorney for Plaintiff Stephen M. Kappos.
    I order this Court to settle this account.
    Signed and dated.
    This included proof of service.

    This happened after the lawyer won judgment to force me to hand him in all
    last three years of commercial activities of my business and myself. For the
    Plaintiff was $1,650, and $4,500 for her attorney.
    After having been ordered to give them my contracts, business licenses,
    ficticious names, cars pink slips, etc, I had to do nothing.
    Two months later, the lawyer tried to intimidate me by sending me a copy of
    the court order/judgement that forced me to pay the lawyer, I sent it back A4V
    and copy of my TRADE NAME Certificate, prohibiting him and impossing a schedule
    fee if he ever used my name again. The fee was $10,000 per breach. I never
    heard from him again.

    Let me know if you're interested in pursuing this strategy, and I would be
    happy to fax you what I did. But please write me back at marvinrami@aol.com for
    better response.

    marvin ramirez

Topic: session #3 Birth Certificate Bond
    googlegroupmember Jan 16 01:19AM -0800 ^

    mcsilver - I concur with ubiquitousme. Thanks for bringing this up
    because i asked before and no one replied. im not letting that stop
    me. it wouldnt be right.

    the document says what it is you want to do. if they don't reply in 72
    hours or 21 or 30 days, stating imperfection, it is done.

    if you are like me there i no one who will alllow me to use their
    name, and i wouldn't ask them. if there's a problem with the amount i
    wrote

    person authorized to administer oaths by the law who is that ? the
    bailiff, the notary, the sheriff, the judge whoever by law is
    authorized to administer oaths

    (b) A protest is a certificate of dishonor made by a United States
    consul or vice consul, or a notary public or other person authorized
    to administer oaths by the law of the place where dishonor occurs. It
    may be made upon information satisfactory to that person. The protest
    must identify the instrument and certify either that presentment has
    been made or, if not made, the reason why it was not made, and that
    the instrument has been dishonored by nonacceptance or nonpayment. The
    protest may also certify that notice of dishonor has been given to
    some or all parties.

    the worst that can happen is i blew 13 bucks for registered mail and
    15 for the certified copy

    all the other information just identifies the parties and the
    certificate - its even unclear that the AFV is necessary on the BC,
    since you are sending it with the bond for setoff - buy why not ? you
    are who you are - Respectfully, Lou

Topic: [uccredemption] Wow! Proof U.S. is a corporation
    Message Base Jan 16 12:55AM -0800 ^

    And I thought THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA was a Delaware corporation.

    LMAO

    --Dale

Topic: Edward Mandell House
    onijunbei Jan 15 10:17PM -0800 ^

    Edward Mandell House had this to say in a private meeting with
    President Woodrow Wilson:



    “[Very] soon, every American will be required to register their
    biological property in a national system designed to keep track of the
    people and that will operate under the ancient system of pledging. By
    such methodology, we can compel people to submit to our agenda, which
    will effect our security as a chargeback for our fiat paper currency.
    Every American will be forced to register or suffer being unable to
    work and earn a living. They will be our chattel, and we will hold the
    security interest over them forever, by operation of the law merchant
    under the scheme of secured transactions.

    Americans, by unknowingly or unwittingly delivering the bills of
    lading to us will be rendered bankrupt and insolvent, forever to
    remain economic slaves through taxation, secured by their pledges.
    They will be stripped of their rights and given a commercial value
    designed to make us a profit and they will be none the wiser, for not
    one man in a million could ever figure our plans and, if by accident
    one or two should figure it out, we have in our arsenal plausible
    deniability. After all, this is the only logical way to fund
    government, by floating liens and debt to the registrants in the form
    of benefits and privileges. This will inevitably reap to us huge
    profits beyond our wildest expectations and leave every American a
    contributor to this fraud which we will call “Social Insurance.”
    Without realizing it, every American will insure us for any loss we
    may incur and in this manner, every American will unknowingly be our
    servant, however begrudgingly. The people will become helpless and
    without any hope for their redemption and, we will employ the high
    office of the President of our dummy corporation to foment this plot
    against America.”

    Message Base Jan 15 10:33PM -0800 ^

    Re "Edward Mandell House had this to say in a private meeting with President
    Woodrow Wilson" ... interesting, if true ... certainly, it's conceivably
    true

    --Dale


Topic: how to access my ss# account and pay debts
    Max K Jan 15 10:16PM -0800 ^

    What's wrong with a4ving your bills to IRS?

    Sent from my iPhone

Topic: Effect of A4V on a perfected claim
    Anne Jan 15 06:05PM -0800 ^

    Karen,

    I, myself, am too new to all of this to answer your question, but I
    would love your contact info so that I can work with you as my Notary,
    if that's ok?

    Thanks,
    Anne
    lenaye@maine.rr.com

    Max K Jan 15 10:14PM -0800 ^

    Did they have to answer questions point for point or show evidence
    point for point? If they they responded but did not respond point for
    point then even though they sent you something it is considered a non
    response and you should go forward with your claim.

    If they did respond point for point then a4v it....

    But remember I no nothing.

    Sent from my iPhone

Topic: Power of Attorney
    Tweeze916 Jan 15 08:42PM -0800 ^

    I just need to get a POA printed up so I can take over for things for
    my brother does anybody have one I can use?


    Thanks in advance

    Max K Jan 15 10:07PM -0800 ^

    Poa can be for many different things. Ie: full poa, limited poa.
    Decide exactly what you want to take power over and do a couple of
    rough drafts. Your best knowledge is to learn legal docs and do them
    yourself. You find true knowledge and power throught that knowledge.

    Sent from my iPhone

Topic: origin/ usage of term "TRUE BILL IN COMMERCE"
    taranova Jan 15 09:28PM -0800 ^

    What does true bill mean?


Topic: PLEASE SEND ORGANIZATION WRITE UP
    Bob Jan 15 09:06PM -0800 ^

    Thanks Bruce

    On Dec 10 2009, 4:21 am, "Bruce Meyers"
    wrote:

Topic: LIEN AN AUTO
    james darby Jan 15 06:49PM -0800 ^

    tim turner paper work thats what you are doing basically liening whatever is yours if they want it pay the lien and you can have it

    --- On Wed, 1/13/10, Max Hemmingway wrote:

    From: Max Hemmingway
    Subject: [creditors-in-commerce] Re: LIEN AN AUTO
    To: "Creditors in Commerce"
    Date: Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 8:14 AM

    Putting a lien on a vehicle of any kind is simple. We do it all the
    time for people who have judgments against them. Each state has it's
    own forms for doing this. We simply have people who want to protect
    their vehicles get a standard form from their department of motor
    vehicles or most any used car dealer and a release of lien form and
    then we fill it out and send it in. Then we send the release of lien
    form signed by us back to the person and they can file it at any time.
    This protects them from anything that might happen to us in the future
    and also guarantees them that we will not be able to go take their
    vehicle for any reason even if we wanted to which of course we don't.

    You can't lien your own vehicle and if you "sell" it to someone else
    such as a family member or a friend your judgment creditors can get it
    reversed. Since we are a corporation they can't claim that you are
    trying to hide assets. You get a real loan document copy so you can
    show it to judgment creditors or any court of law and prove that your
    vehicle isn't free and clear so they can't take it.
    Of course, our liens are always for at least double what the vehicle
    is worth so if they did get stupid and grab it without checking we
    would go after them for the full amount of the lien and they would
    have to pay us before they could dispose of the vehicle. We would then
    remit the amount we got from them to you and you could then go out and
    buy an even better vehicle than what they took.

    Of course, not to worry about that because no judgment creditor is
    dumb enough to grab a vehicle without first checking to see if it is
    free and clear or not. We have the perfect hidey-hole for those with
    judgments against them. Of course, it is much better if you get your
    hidey-hole in place before the judgment actually happens.

http://www.mysexydevices.com
http://docs.google.com/?pli=1#all
http://tinyurl.com/ybevmte ------>Creditors-in-commerce links page
http://sites.google.com/site/cap1sucks/
Another great google group
Synopsis of last 50 topics for this group

(302) 360-8448


    --
Topic: Becoming a Creditor: Window of opportunity will close: Meaning???
    "Mr.Zeph" Jan 15 08:52PM -0500 ^

    > always an interpretation of each individual....would you agree?).

    > braindead after half a day of conference calls, forgive the semi-
    > coherent ramble...

    The only perspective I'm trying to bring across that the answer can be
    found with basic critical thinking skills and a bit of research. What
    is this window of opportunity? Offered by who? To who? Under what
    conditions? When was this "window of opportunity" presented? Can
    someone provide documentary evidence of this so-called "window of
    opportunity"? If so, I'm happy to look at the facts and evidence and
    come to a conclusion, but to the best of my knowledge this "window of
    opportunity" is just folklore from people in this movement. Honestly,
    I'm utterly stunned at how much is accepted at face value in this
    movement.

    I keep going back to my mantra that remedy to the issues that bug us
    are going to be simple, feet-on-the-ground, ordinary--banal, even,
    information. Remedy is found though simple and solid education, I
    think. Or at least the remedies that I'm going for are.

    Raam T Jan 15 06:09PM -0800 ^

    And I would offer for consideration that this would not fall into the
    category of questions
    for which our intellectual capacities are the appropriate ones of our range
    of capacities
    and that that doesn't mean it's just folklore. Even though it is probably
    covered in such.
    And acknowledging it as a possibility beyond reach of facts and critical
    thinking also
    does not mean one accepts it as fact or for face value - even though many
    might indeed
    do that, which I would agree would not be a functional approach.

    I am thus asking you to evaluate if you are being discerning enough or
    generalizing
    to an extend that doesn't pay justice to reality and thus wouldn't be
    functional either.

    Just food for thought...

    > going to be simple, feet-on-the-ground, ordinary--banal, even, information.
    > Remedy is found though simple and solid education, I think. Or at least the
    > remedies that I'm going for are.

    --
    Rasmus Raam Toerper

    Global Environmental Fuel Technology LLC
    yourgeft@gmail.com
    Direct: (310) 402-6235
    Office: 866-442-5557

    www.OmStar.com

    14761-G Franklin Avenue
    Tustin, CA 92780

    "We Make Going Green Profitable"

Thursday, January 14, 2010


  • Jerry Kane on AFV [2 Updates]
  • The Extra Mile - (Creditor) Meditation from Anthony De Mello's "The Way to Love" [2 Updates]
  • Becoming a Creditor: Window of opportunity will close: Meaning??? [4 Updates]
  • Where Can One Find or Get a EIN For 4419 Application? [1 Update]
  • How...? [3 Updates]
  • I-9 The evolution of creditors? [1 Update]
  • can my five and three year old become secured party creditors [1 Update]
  • HAPPY NEW YEAR = ANYONE ELSE WANT A SIMPLE METHOD FOR ORGANIZING DOCUMENTS [1 Update]
Topic: Jerry Kane on AFV
    Donna Lee Jan 14 01:09AM -0500 ^

    Jerry Kane rocks

    Just got off the phone with him. He's one of those amazing people who really thinks outside the box. He's a real credit to what we're trying to accomplish, and he really cares about people which seems fairly rare these days. Jerry Kane is definitely one of the top 3 that I advocate.

    Donna Lee
    www.NotaryPresenters.com

    > I only got to about 20 minutes into the show so far, but thought you'd
    > be interested:
    __________.
    http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390706/direct/01/

    Procreator Jan 14 04:02AM -0800 ^

    I agree Donna, Jerry is the Bomb.

Topic: The Extra Mile - (Creditor) Meditation from Anthony De Mello's "The Way to Love"
    Raam Jan 14 12:41AM -0800 ^

    The thread below just inspired me to post one of the meditations from
    a beautiful, short little book by Anthony De Mello, titled "The Way to
    Love". I was inspired to post it to help us develop an attitude of
    love and compassion towards even easy-to-hate people like the
    Rothschild's mentioned in that thread, but also for its relevance for
    walking the path of the creditor in general, hope you enjoy it...

    here's the thread link

    p.13 (just so happens...)

    THE EXTRA MILE

    "And if anyone would sue you and take your coat, let him have your
    cloak as well. If a man in authority makes you go one mile, go with
    him two miles." - Matthew 5:40-4l

    If you take a look at the way you have been put together and the way
    you function you will find that inside your head there is a whole
    program, a set of demands about how the world should be, how you
    should be and what you should want. Who is responsible for the
    programming? Not you. It isn’t really you who decided even such basics
    as your wants and desires and so called needs; your values, your
    tastes, your attitudes. It was your parents, your society, your
    culture, your religion, your past experiences who fed the operating
    instructions into your computer. Now, however old you are or wherever
    you go, your computer goes along with you and is active and operating
    at each conscious moment of the day, imperiously insisting that its
    demands be met by life, by people and by you. If the demands are met,
    the computer allows you to be peaceful and happy. If they are not met,
    even though it be through no fault of yours, the computer generates
    negative emotions that cause you to suffer.

    For instance, when other people don't live up to your computer's
    expectations, it torments you with frustration or anger or bitterness.
    Another instance: When things are not under your control or the future
    is uncertain, your computer insists that you experience anxiety,
    tension, worry. Then you expend a lot of energy coping with these
    negative emotions. And you generally cope by expending more energy
    trying to rearrange the world around you so that the demands of your
    computer will be met. If that happens you will be granted a measure of
    precarious peace; precarious because at any moment some trifle (a
    delayed train, a tape recorder that doesn't work, a letter that
    doesn't arrive - anything) is going to be out of conformity with your
    computer's programming and the computer will insist that you become
    upset again.

    And so you live a pathetic existence, constantly at the mercy of
    things and people, trying desperately to make them conform to your
    computer’s demands, so that you can enjoy the only peace you can ever
    know – a temporary respite from negative emotions, courtesy of your
    computer and your programming.

    Then you will understand how profound this statement is: “If a man
    wants to sue you for your shirt, let him have your coat as well. If a
    man in authority makes you go one mile, go with him two.” For it will
    have become evident to you that real oppression comes, not from people
    who fight you in court or from authority that subjects you to slave
    labor, but from your computer whose programming destroys your peace of
    mind the moment outside circumstances fail to conform to its demands.
    People have been known to be happy even in the oppressive atmosphere
    of a concentration camp! It is from the oppression of your programming
    that you need to be liberated.
    Only then will you experience that inner freedom from which all social
    revolution must arise for the powerful emotion, the passion that
    arises in your heart at the sight of social evils and impels you to
    action, will have its origin in reality, not in your programming or
    your ego.

    Raam Jan 14 12:49AM -0800 ^

    PS: I like the last part the best, don't miss it :-)

Topic: Becoming a Creditor: Window of opportunity will close: Meaning???
    Raam Toerper Jan 13 11:45PM -0800 ^

    The meek shall inherit the earth...indeed...personally, I often like the
    picture that
    emerges when one interprets sacred scripture metaphorically, but also
    literally - and
    how the greatest challenges and greates opportunities tend to be different
    sides of
    the very same coin...put those two together and it could look something like
    this:

    One of the greatest challenges for creating a world that works for all life,
    is the degree
    of centralization of power and resources in the hands of very few,
    seemingly...misguided
    individuals. no, FAMILIES. Now what if the meek were to literally inherit
    the earth - bodhisattvas
    born to be the heirs of these few epicenters of power, evolved beyond reach
    of the massive
    brainwashing and imprinting used by these families to maintain their agenda
    (imagine how much
    time and energy is spent manipulating John Doe, multiply that a few timesby
    itself...), sleepers
    destined to awake one day with the power of half the worlds resources in
    their hands and
    the highest good of all life in their hearts...suddenly, centralization
    become such sweet,
    beautiful thing, like giant screw chaining our planet to the path of
    destruction, tightened
    just a bit too far...

    Hmm, now let me add another thought regarding the "powers to be".

    Have you seen Avatar? (Sooo good, watched it 3 times and counting...).

    In one scene, before the final battle, the protagonist preys to Eiwa,
    Goddess of the Na'vi (the
    big blue people) to help them in battle. The future high priestess sees that
    and basically says
    ""Eiwa never takes sides, she only protects the balance of life".

    Jack Smith has a great scripture-based theory on why the power to be have
    held so much power
    in recent centuries - being the ones that have been doing the right thing
    for the wrong reasons, while
    the children of God have been doing the wrong things for the right reasons.
    A version of that integrated
    with the wisdom of the Na'vi might be, that the powers to be's agenda -
    reducing world population to
    500 million by any means and controlling the rest via global military
    dictatorship - while appearing about
    as evil as it gets from an individual perspective, from a universal
    perspective 5 billion people is a drop of
    water on a hot stone - and might have so far been the most comprehensive and
    executable plan to
    bring back a certain degree of balance of life back to this planet and allow
    life to continue here.
    This is what is changing now. Through the collective brain of the world wide
    web the knowledge and
    wisdom of east and west and literally millions of benevolent organizations
    and billions of people is
    in the process of integrating to form and actionable alternative - and with
    it, the power and resources
    have begun to effortlessly and unstoppably change hands...

    ...so who's there really to blame for anything? are we not all but playing
    our roles in the push and
    pull of light and dark? Are we not all just as much cause as we are effect?

    In any case, life will survive. It will balance itself. We are in the
    process of deciding what is necessary for
    that to happen. How much evolutionary pressure does it take for to
    collectively wake up from the insane
    dream we have been dreaming, to truly see, appreciate and shepard all life.
    The time of the great
    decision, yes, composed of trillions of small decisions throughout history
    and from hereon out,
    16 billion years down, ~3 to go. Maybe (this phase of) the game of life,
    like all games, in retrospective
    will be defined by it's last seconds. 10% percent of all humans that ever
    lived (well, according to our
    history) are alive today. And maybe together we're about to decide what the
    efforts and lives of all that
    came before us end up amounting to...what an honor and pleasure to be alive
    today - especially being
    who and where we are, with the knowledge and resources we hold and the
    communities we're a part
    of, like this one especially, having the potential to play a vital role in
    what's to come...

    ...and maybe that's all just crazy talk. Who knows. The Buddha says there's
    just one truth - and that
    is everything is true, or nothing is true. So as for my part, this is all
    just an entertaining illusion and
    I can't take any of it too serious anymore and get all hot and bothered
    about it, rather enjoy the game
    of co-creation with awesome people like you...

    --
    Rasmus Raam Toerper

    Global Environmental Fuel Technology LLC
    yourgeft@gmail.com
    Direct: (310) 402-6235
    Office: 866-442-5557

    www.OmStar.com

    14761-G Franklin Avenue
    Tustin, CA 92780

    "We Make Going Green Profitable"

    Raam Toerper Jan 13 11:55PM -0800 ^

    oh, had it ever stopped?
    --
    Rasmus Raam Toerper

    Global Environmental Fuel Technology LLC
    yourgeft@gmail.com
    Direct: (310) 402-6235
    Office: 866-442-5557

    www.OmStar.com

    14761-G Franklin Avenue
    Tustin, CA 92780

    "We Make Going Green Profitable"

    Raam Toerper Jan 13 11:57PM -0800 ^

    the ass-kicking that is...

    maybe it just came home at last, not enough butts left to kick
    elsewhere...too bad

    > 14761-G Franklin Avenue
    > Tustin, CA 92780

    > "We Make Going Green Profitable"

    --
    Rasmus Raam Toerper

    Global Environmental Fuel Technology LLC
    yourgeft@gmail.com
    Direct: (310) 402-6235
    Office: 866-442-5557

    www.OmStar.com

    14761-G Franklin Avenue
    Tustin, CA 92780

    "We Make Going Green Profitable"

    Raam Toerper Jan 14 12:46AM -0800 ^

    this thread just inspired me to make another post, which you might enjoy in
    this context:

    PS: forgive me if my last post sounded heartless or sarcastic, not meant
    that way,
    the part of me that might have seen too many parts of this world and knows
    too much
    of its (recent) history kinda blurted that out...

    > 14761-G Franklin Avenue
    > Tustin, CA 92780

    > "We Make Going Green Profitable"

    --
    Rasmus Raam Toerper

    Global Environmental Fuel Technology LLC
    yourgeft@gmail.com
    Direct: (310) 402-6235
    Office: 866-442-5557

    www.OmStar.com

    14761-G Franklin Avenue
    Tustin, CA 92780

    "We Make Going Green Profitable"

Topic: Where Can One Find or Get a EIN For 4419 Application?
    Neo Jan 13 11:33PM -0800 ^

    If I understand correctly, one shouldn't use a corporate number,
    therefore how does one find or obtain one for a private filing?

Topic: How...?
    Donna Lee Jan 14 12:57AM -0500 ^

    Maverick, welcome
    You are among kindred spirits here.

    Realize that we were all inundated and indoctrinated into a system that was designed and orchestrated to bring us down, to make us run faster and faster on the mouse wheel for less and less. It's wonderful to see more people waking up every day. I'm sure someone on here can point you to the appropriate starting audios, etc. :)

    > makes asking for help foreign to me. However the type of minds and
    > skills I recognize here tells me I would be a fool not to humble
    > myself and say I DO NOT KNOW where to start can someone help me?

    _________________________________________________________________

    http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390707/direct/01/

    "Mr.Zeph" Jan 14 01:12AM -0500 ^

    On 2010-01-13, at 10:43 PM, Maverick wrote:
    > makes asking for help foreign to me. However the type of minds and
    > skills I recognize here tells me I would be a fool not to humble
    > myself and say I DO NOT KNOW where to start can someone help me?


    My 2 cents:

    Don't fall into the trap of thinking that the commercial redemption
    movement is about getting free money. It's not.

    Don't mistake it for making you immune to acting according to the very
    highest ethics that you are capable of. You're not.

    Do not think for a moment that you can be told what is true. You can't.

    This movement does hold hope. It is also rife with charlatans,
    bullshitters, people who lie for their own egos, and good people who
    just don't know better. And there are a few who study long and hard
    enough to figure it out and make sense of it.

    Observe people. Do they have that ego-smell about them? Are they
    angry? Fearful? Combative? Self-righteous? Vain? Think carefully about
    what they say before accepting their words as fact.

    I've started studying about may 6 months ago, and have started making
    baby steps. The fact of the matter is that 90% + of the people in this
    movement are gullible suckers. Another 8% are blind men honestly
    searching for "the truth". Another 1% are getting really close and the
    other 1% have it.

    I may be wrong, but I believe that the truth is not some woo-woo
    conspiracy bad-guy intern-camp evil empire out to get us. The truth is
    probably closer to basic human psychology. There are good, bad, smart,
    stupid, diligent, lazy, wise and foolish at all levels. Don't label
    them. Use your best instincts and current-level-of-education to
    discern fact from fiction.

    I would suggest that you start small, affordable and applicable. Keep
    your feet firmly rooted in the ground. Pretend you are in law school
    being taught by an incompetent teacher. He may be nice, but do your
    own research--but he might have the occasional clue to offer you.

    I recommend you take one single topic that is important to you.
    Perhaps it's paying your bills, monthly and on time. Perhaps it's
    saving your house. Perhaps it's a court case. Perhaps it's something
    as simple as a parking ticket Perhaps it's... I don't know that is
    important to YOU.

    Take that one topic. Ask yourself, what limits you? What are the
    constraints? What is it, that if you took 100% responsibility for that
    you could make come into existence would "fix your problem"?

    Focus on that. And learn everything that you possible can that relates
    to that topic. Look for fundamentals and focus on them. Make the very
    best use of your logic and practical mindedness. Go to archives.org
    and get free primers on the basics of law. Read maxims of law, and
    learn to apply them everywhere. Grow your knowledge solidly, and
    incrementally. Take your time. Do not rush. Learn. Study. Learn more.
    Study more.

    Be skeptical, practical, realistic while thinking outside of the box.

    If you get into this, you are starting a whole new way of living.
    Leave all fear and desperation and resentment and anger behind. Even
    if all of this is pure bullshit, at the very least you'll create your
    own peace. For the nuggets of truth that you do find, rely on them,
    prove them. Document them and share them. Nothing teaches like teaching.

    In the end, there is no one course that can teach you entire bodies of
    knowledge. It takes a minimum of 4 years to become a lawyer, when
    going to university. Take it for granted that if you are self-
    disciplined that your own self-studies will take you at least that
    long to achieve that level of competence.

    In short: Choose one subject that is important to you. Focus on it.
    Learn the maxims of law. Learn the fundamentals of law and the
    monetary system (including accounting). If you aren't a good critical
    thinker, acquire those skills. If you are, use them over time. Be
    patient, focused and self-responsible.

    This is not an easy path, but may, in the end, be the most rewarding
    of all. There is no one way. There is what gets you results, or not.
    What you do with it is up to you. Good luck and welcome.

    email41@aol.com Jan 14 01:28AM -0500 ^

    And there are a few who study long and hard enough to figure it out and
    make sense of it.

    Another 8% are blind men honestly > searching for "the truth". Another 1%
    > are getting really close and the
    > other 1% have it.

    I second mr.zeph's statement here. Anything in this world that has great
    value always comes at a great price. Whether it is the hope diamond, a great
    marriage, incredible kids, or a functioning knowledge of commerce that makes
    you a powerful force to deal with. Everything great will cost you great
    (including your great ignorance). So be prepared to do the hard work that no one
    else is willing to do, and perhaps one day we will be looking to you as a
    guru.

Topic: I-9 The evolution of creditors?
    truebluestar Jan 13 09:25PM -0800 ^

    Hi Chris,
    As I understand it, your strawman (US Citizen) is a legal fiction
    (trustee), created by the federal government. It isn't you.
    Operating in commerce without that entity has become almost impossible
    unless you're willing to go live in the boonies somewhere. So the
    trick is to keep your strawman and allow it to enter into contracts
    such as the one you're considering. You can use it without being it.
    If you learn to control it and declare your relationship to it, you
    won't be damaged. I've been listening to Christian Walters' audio
    files where he discusses this concept. You can probably find his
    recordings with a search on this google group.

    Love and peace,
    Jim B.

Topic: can my five and three year old become secured party creditors
    Natty Jan 13 09:15PM -0800 ^

    Quick Question folks,

    Still learning here, please bare with me. My five year old has basic
    handwriting and my three year old pretty much scribbles. Is there any
    way for me as the parent to assist them in becoming secured party
    creditors? Can they or do they have to be able to sign an autograph
    type signature?

    1. Peace,
    Natty

Topic: HAPPY NEW YEAR = ANYONE ELSE WANT A SIMPLE METHOD FOR ORGANIZING DOCUMENTS
    UbiquitousMe Jan 13 09:13PM -0800 ^

    Tried at least 7-8 times. Maybe strike the motherlode this time?

    Thanks in advance.

    Daniel
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Wednesday, January 13, 2010

Creditors-in-commerce daily digest for 01/13/2010


  • who is trading your bond????? [5 Updates]
  • HAPPY NEW YEAR = ANYONE ELSE WANT A SIMPLE METHOD FOR ORGANIZING DOCUMENTS [3 Updates]
  • 1099 oid to check cashing business [1 Update]
  • FIRST STEP to Foreign International Status. [1 Update]
  • Responsibility [1 Update]
  • Becoming a Creditor: Window of opportunity will close: Meaning??? [2 Updates]
  • Notice of Understanding and Intent An... [1 Update]
  • SS number not required by law [1 Update]
  • Traffic Ticket Motion to Dismiss Points & Authorities [1 Update]
  • Mortgage - enforcement [1 Update]
  • Whats going on in our children's schools? [1 Update]
  • Question on UCC-1 [1 Update]
  • Naming myself in Court [1 Update]
  • Judgement pending...Info please [2 Updates]
  • Returned answer on [3 Updates]
Topic: who is trading your bond?????
    Max Kuzkin Jan 12 03:36PM -0800 ^

    This is a hoax

    --
    PUBLIC NOTICE

    of the one sovereign sentient Jan 12 03:58PM -0800 ^

    came from here
    please prove its a hoax....seems plausible from my viewpoint.....

    http://www.stopthepirates.blogspot.com/

    ________________________________
    From: Max Kuzkin
    Sent: Tue, January 12, 2010 6:36:19 PM
    Subject: Re: who is trading your bond?????

    This is a hoax

    On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 1:52 PM, of the one sovereign sentient wrote:

    You can try this if you want. Mine
    >contract—UCC3-203—and to make a Claim in recoupment (Reparations) for
    >fraud committed upon you when you were and infant (See UCC 3-305).

    >Ok, so now you know.
    --
    PUBLIC NOTICE
    > omission does not constitute a waiver of any and/or all intellectual
    > property rights or reserved rights. UCC 1-308

    > Notice to Principal is Notice to Agent / Notice to Agent is Notice to

    Max Kuzkin Jan 12 04:42PM -0800 ^

    please prove it is not?

    On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 3:58 PM, of the one sovereign sentient <

    --
    PUBLIC NOTICE

    Eli Lilly Jan 13 02:33AM -0500 ^

    Its a hoax now anyway...if you type in '1' followed by any set of numbers in the fund number box you will get the same fund over and over again.

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Max Kuzkin
    Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 7:42 PM
    To: of the one sovereign sentient
    Subject: Re: who is trading your bond?????

    please prove it is not?

    On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 3:58 PM, of the one sovereign sentient wrote:
    came from here
    please prove its a hoax....seems plausible from my viewpoint.....

    http://www.stopthepirates.blogspot.com/
    From: Max Kuzkin

    Sent: Tue, January 12, 2010 6:36:19 PM
    Subject: Re: who is trading your bond?????

    This is a hoax

    On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 1:52 PM, of the one sovereign sentient wrote:
    Donna Lee Jan 13 02:36AM -0500 ^

    The Fidelity site cut off access approx 6 months ago. Good thing I retrieved all my CUSIPS, Symbols, Fund numbers back when I had a chance.

    From: lucrative.empire@gmail.com
    Subject: RE: who is trading your bond?????
    Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 02:33:49 -0500
    To: kuzkinmax@gmail.com; locomotivate@yahoo.com

    Its a hoax now anyway...if you type in '1' followed by any set of numbers in the fund number box you will get the same fund over and over again.

    From: Max Kuzkin
    Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 7:42 PM
    To: of the one sovereign sentient
    Cc: Creditors in Commerce
    Subject: Re: [creditors-in-commerce] who is trading your bond?????

    please prove it is not?

    On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 3:58 PM, of the one sovereign sentient wrote:
    came from here
    please prove its a hoax....seems plausible from my viewpoint.....

    http://www.stopthepirates.blogspot.com/

    From: Max Kuzkin
    Sent: Tue, January 12, 2010 6:36:19 PM
    Subject: who is trading your bond?????

    This is a hoax

    On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 1:52 PM, of the one sovereign sentient wrote:


Topic: HAPPY NEW YEAR = ANYONE ELSE WANT A SIMPLE METHOD FOR ORGANIZING DOCUMENTS
    NKLayne Jan 12 09:39PM -0800 ^

    By the way Bruce, Great Marketing TOOL!

    Donna Lee Jan 13 12:48AM -0500 ^

    EXCELLENT tool Bruce, thank you very much! I almost fell offa my chair laughing at the Attorney firm name ie. DEWEY, CHEETAM & HOWE

    Thanks again


    Donna Lee
    www.NotaryPresenters.com


    > > > > > (425) 223-5684
    > > > > > speakerbr...@yahoo.com

    > > > > > Why pay on a mortgage? Learn the truth:http://tinyurl.com/IOwnMyHome

    onijunbei Jan 12 11:34PM -0800 ^

    i will take a shot at this system as well...and why you are at it, I
    could use a good vacuum, a pretty young maid, and a butler that calls
    me Master Bruce. They say organization is one of the best qualities
    that a successful person has. Thats why I use folders on my computer
    to put documents in.

    just my 2 cents

    unless this topic is actually sarcastic and I am going to be sent a
    bunch of docs that are satirized for my viewing pleasure.

    oni

Topic: 1099 oid to check cashing business
    onijunbei Jan 12 11:24PM -0800 ^

    and dont be afraid to get a bank account. You already pay for the
    service of banks with your taxes. Might as well use them to your
    advantage. And, you can do online banking, and get direct deposit,
    and you dont have to spend all that time and energy going to a check
    cashing place that probably takes a percentage of your check away from
    you.

    just my 2 cents, in my bank account

Topic: FIRST STEP to Foreign International Status.
    onijunbei Jan 12 11:21PM -0800 ^

    you are already foreign. your strawman is domestic. If that makes
    sense.

    just my 2 cents

Topic: Responsibility
    Nick P Jan 12 11:17PM -0800 ^

    From the first LT sessions, my take is that responsible means not
    confused and contradictory (e.g. I understand the charges and plead
    not guilty).

Topic: Becoming a Creditor: Window of opportunity will close: Meaning???
    taranova Jan 12 07:15PM -0800 ^

    I believe by 2012 that is the end of the commercial calendar according
    to the Mayans. Close all 10 SS cards by then or that window wil
    close. As far as getting out of your home-maybe the effort to reduce
    the populatiion and place people in internmanet camps is what he meant-
    for swine flu or other reasons.

    onijunbei Jan 12 11:15PM -0800 ^

    my 2 cents

    i agree with the above that the date mentioned(if an actual date not
    construed and obstructed by spanish intervention into mayan culture)
    is more a sign of a different consciousness and not an actual ending.
    I think too much has been made of 2012. But it is kinda funny when
    you start getting into the US Code and it only has the registration of
    securities to the date of 2012(as to whether this is just a time line
    to renew the statute/code or an actual ending of securities trading,
    finance, and monetary involvement is unknown to me). And this also
    reminds me of the Schumann Resonance and how the frequency of the
    earth is changing. Throughout history, many individuals predicted an
    end to the earth and the coming of Christ. Well, Christ never came,
    or to some biblical scholars, the 2nd coming has come and gone a long
    time ago, and this may just in fact be another mistiming of
    unfortunate people wishing an end to humanity. And history has shown
    frequently and repeatedly the dumbing down of whole cultures and
    populations to do the bidding of a tiny majority. Life is suppose to
    be simple(please dont smirk or laugh at that last statement, LOL).
    But to me life is simple; get up, eat, shit, work, sleep...repeat as
    long as life lets you. The only thing that complicates life is
    relationships. Relationships between our friends, loved ones,
    strangers, our boss, our work environment...tis my opinion the only
    thing that makes life difficult. But life is what it is...an
    illogical singularity in a materialistic and energy driven Universe.
    The only meaning to life is whatever meaning you give it. If we keep
    worrying about what may be.. instead of what is, then life just holds
    negativity for our energy and spiritually driven souls. Energy is a
    wave. And that wave is a frequency. And one can go thru life on the
    down trough or the up trough(pronounced troff). Their is no ending to
    energy. It cannot be destroyed. It can only change from one form to
    another. What is a window of opportunity? Invictus: "I am the master
    of my fate: I am the captain of my soul." Life is what you make of
    it...and in regards to that as well, life is suppose to take you to
    experience...one should never plan an experience. Life happens, and
    life ends; but to master your life while you are conscious of it is
    the biggest thrill of all. Fear is the greatest enemy of mankind.
    And this window of opportunity talk to me is just some more of the
    same old fear.

    oni

Topic: Notice of Understanding and Intent An...
    Nick P Jan 12 11:13PM -0800 ^

    the link leads to a blank doc.

Topic: SS number not required by law
Topic: Traffic Ticket Motion to Dismiss Points & Authorities
    georaw Jan 12 09:51PM -0800 ^

    Superior Court of _______
    Central Division - Traffic
    _____________________
    __________, California


    PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA,

    "Plaintiff";

    and

    ___________ ; "Accused"

    Case No.: ___________

    DEFENDANT'S NOTICE & MOTION TO DISMISS
    FOR LACK OF SUBJECT MATTER JURISDICTION


    1. ____________ moves the court for an order of dismissal.

    2. The Department of Motor Vehicles and the Department of California
    Highway Patrol are both departments and sub-agencies of the California
    Business, Transportation & Housing agency. The departments/sub-
    agencies are authorized with original jurisdiction to enforce and hold
    administrative court hearings concerning California Vehicle Code,
    "CVC," violations.

    This judicial court does not have original jurisdiction in this case.

    3. Dismissal is proper in this case because this court was not
    properly petitioned with a writ of mandate, as required by law, to
    invoke the subject matter jurisdiction of this court, for judicial
    review of the administrative law court's order or final determination.

    4. This motion is based on the attached Defendant's Memorandum Of
    Points & Authorities for Notice & Motion For Dismissal For Lack Of
    Subject Matter Jurisdiction, and all pleadings and papers on file.

    5. Please take notice that xxxxxxxx will bring this motion for a pre-
    trial hearing before this court on ______________ , at _______, in
    __________.

    DEFENDANT'S MEMORANDUM OF POINTS & AUTHORITIES FOR MOTION TO DISMISS
    LACK OF SUBJECT MATTER JURISDICTION

    _____________ asks the court for an Order Of Dismissal For Lack of
    Subject Matter

    Jurisdiction, for the following reasons:

    A. Parties

    1. The parties are the People Of the State Of California,

    "Plaintiff";

    and

    _____________ , "Accused."

    B. Statement of Facts

    2. Officer ________ [ officer's badge number ], "Officer," issued a
    Notice To Appear, "UTC," [Uniform Traffic Citation] to Accused, for
    alleged violation of California Vehicle Code, "CVC," 22106 Unsafe
    Backing.

    3. On or about __ - __ - __,

    Defendant appeared in court to straighten out an erroneous oversight
    of the court. Court appearing to be backed up with paperwork and
    inadequate manpower to thoroughly track all correspondence in
    reference to this case and entered a failure to appear which triggered
    a Drivers License Suspension with the DMW. Judge corrected mistake and
    Defendant was required to make a special trip to DMV to correct this
    matter.

    4. Judge entered a plea of not guilty for Defendant, after Defendant
    Stated that Defendant did not have enough information to make a
    knowledgeable plea.

    C. Points and Authorities

    6. According to California Government Code, "CGC," §12850, state
    agencies fall under the executive branch of the Governor:

    §12850. The secretary of each agency has the power of general
    supervision over, and is directly responsible to the Governor for, the
    operations of each department, office, and unit within the agency.

    7. According to CGC §11000, state agencies include, but are not
    limited to, the Department of Motor Vehicles, "DMV," the Department of
    California Highway Patrol, "CHP," the Police & Sheriff's departments,
    etc:

    §11000. (a) As used in this title, "state agency" includes every
    state office, officer, department, division, bureau, board, and
    commission.

    8. According to CGC §12800, the Business, Transportation & Housing
    agency is an agency of the state of California:

    §12800. There are in the state government the following agencies:

    State and Consumer Services; Business, Transportation and Housing;
    California Environmental Protection; California Health and Human
    Services; Labor And Workforce Development; Resources; and Youth and
    Adult Correctional. (Emphasis added.)

    9. According to CVC §1500 & §2100. The DMV & CHP are departments of
    the California Business, Transportation and Housing agency: §1500.

    There is in the Business, Transportation and Housing Agency the
    Department of Motor Vehicles. §2100. There is in the Business,
    Transportation and Housing Agency the Department of the California
    Highway Patrol.

    10. According to CVC §265 & §295 Words & Phrases, the commissioner is
    the Commissioner of the CHP, and the director is the Director of the

    DMV: §265. The "commissioner" is the Commissioner of the California
    Highway Patrol.
    §295. The "director" is the Director of Motor Vehicles.

    11. According to CVC §1650 & §2400(b). Powers & Duties. The director
    of the DMV is authorized with original jurisdiction and charged with
    administering and enforcing the
    (CVC) code; the commissioner of the CHP is authorized with original
    jurisdiction and charged with enforcement of the laws regulating
    vehicles & use of the highway:

    §1650. The director shall administer and enforce the provisions of
    this code relating to the department.

    §2400(b) the commissioner shall enforce all laws regulating the
    operation of vehicles and the use of the highways

    12. According to CGC §§ 11400, 11410.20 & 11410.50, The executive
    branch departments within the California Business, Transportation &
    Housing agency, hereafter collectively, "Agency," which are not
    expressly exempted nor are there statutes relating to the proceedings
    that provide otherwise, must abide by the Administrative Procedures
    Act, "APA":

    §11400. (a) This chapter and Chapter 5 (commencing with Section
    11500) constitute the administrative adjudication provisions of the
    Administrative Procedure Act.

    §11410.20. Except as otherwise expressly provided by statute:

    (a) This chapter applies to all agencies of the state.

    §11410.50. This chapter applies to an adjudicative proceeding
    required to be conducted under Chapter 5 (commencing with Section
    11500) unless the statutes relating to the proceeding provide
    otherwise. (Emphasis added.)

    13. According to CGC § 11425.10(a)(1 & 2), the Agency is required to
    give notice of any Agency actions and is required to send a copy of
    the procedure governing the action:

    §11425.10. (a) The governing procedure by which an agency conducts
    an adjudicative proceeding is subject to all of the following
    requirements:

    (1) The agency shall give the person to which the agency action is
    directed notice and an opportunity to be heard, including the
    opportunity to present and rebut evidence.

    (2) The agency shall make available to the person to which the agency
    action is directed a copy of the governing procedure, including a
    statement whether Chapter 5

    (commencing with Section 11500) is applicable to the proceeding.

    14. According to CGC §11410.10 & §11503, an agency is required to
    conduct adjudicative hearings for actions undertaken within the
    purview of its authority where a state statute or an inalienable right
    (to travel) is in question:

    §11410.10. This chapter applies to a decision by an agency if, under
    the federal or state Constitution or a federal or state statute, an
    evidentiary hearing for determination of facts is required for
    formulation and issuance of the decision.

    §11503. A hearing to determine whether a right, authority, license or
    privilege should be revoked, suspended, limited or conditioned shall
    be initiated by filing a citation. (Emphasis added)

    15. According to CGC §11502(a) all Agency hearings are required to be
    heard by executive branch administrative law judges, not judicial
    branch judges:

    §11502(a) All hearings of state agencies required to be conducted
    under this chapter shall be conducted by administrative law judges on
    the staff of the Office of Administrative Hearings.

    16. CGC §11523 provides the proper procedure for the Agency (or

    Defendant) to request judicial review of the administrative Agency's
    final decision or order:

    §11523. Judicial review may be had by filing a petition for a writ of
    mandate in accordance with the provisions of the Code of Civil

    Procedure, subject, however, to the statutes relating to the
    particular agency.

    D. Argument

    17. It is contrary to the principle of separation of powers and a
    breach of due process for this judicial branch court to usurp the
    executive branch administrative authority, duty & jurisdiction held by
    the DMV,

    18. The UTC issued to Defendant was undertaken within the purview of
    the original authority and jurisdiction of the executive branch DMV,
    not this judicial branch court. See CVC §1650 & §2400(b), CGC §§
    11425.10(a) (1 & 2), §11503 & §11502(a), supra.

    19. Defendant's unconditional right to travel is challenged by the
    issuance of a UTC claiming violations of restrictive CVC conditions.
    See CGC § 11503 & 11410.10, supra.

    20. The Agency, not a judicial branch court, is required to initiate
    an administrative Agency hearing and send notice of action and a copy
    of the governing procedure to Defendant. See CGC § 11503 and §11425.10
    (a) (1 & 2), supra.

    21. According to CGC §11410, §11410.20, §11410.50, § 11425.10(a)(1 &

    2), §11503, §11502(a), & §11523, supra, this judicial court has no
    jurisdiction to lawfully
    hear an administrative matter until administrative due process
    procedures have been exhausted.

    22. This judicial court can only review the facts and conclusions of
    law found in the executive Agency's administrative final determination
    or order, and only after the Agency (or Defendant) petitions for a
    writ of mandate for judicial review. See CGC §11523, supra.

    23. The Agency with original jurisdiction has not filed a petition for
    a writ of mandate for judicial review with this judicial court in
    accordance with CGC §11523. Therefore, this court has no jurisdiction
    to hear this matter. E. Conclusion

    24. The original jurisdiction Agency has not presented a petition to
    this court, for a writ of mandate for this court to judicially review
    the administrative courts final determination or order, which would
    give subject matter jurisdiction to this judicial court. See CGC
    §11523. 25. The original jurisdiction Agency, as shown by CVC §1650 &
    §2400(b), & CGC § 11502(a), supra, has not invoked the subject matter
    jurisdiction of this judicial court. See CGC §11523, supra.

    26. This judicial branch court has no lawful authority to impose its
    opinion, where no original jurisdiction administrative agency petition
    stands in compliance with the APA requesting it to do so.

    27. No judicial determination has properly been requested. The law
    requires that jurisdiction be properly invoked. Without jurisdiction,
    this court cannot consider this matter. This case should be dismissed
    for lack of subject matter jurisdiction.

    F. Petition

    28. Because this court has no subject matter jurisdiction to consider
    Case No.: _________________ , Defendant asks the court to grant
    Defendant an Order Of Dismissal For Lack Of Subject Matter
    Jurisdiction for said case.


    Dated this _____ day of ________, 2010

    _______________________ (signed) _____________
    ____________

Topic: Mortgage - enforcement
    "NKLayne" Jan 12 08:28PM -0800 ^

    FORM 55A
    NOTICE OF HEARING FOR DIRECTIONS
    (General heading)
    NOTICE OF HEARING FOR DIRECTIONS

    By order of the court, a copy of which is served with this
    notice, a reference was directed to (person conducting reference) for the purpose of (set out
    purpose or reference). The (identify party) has obtained an appointment with (name
    of person conducting reference) on (day), (date), at (time), at (address) for a hearing to consider directions for the conduct of the reference in this proceeding.
    IF YOU FAIL TO ATTEND, in person or by a lawyer acting for you, directions may be given and the reference may proceed in your absence and without further notice to you, and you will be bound by any order made in the proceeding.
    (Date)
    (Name, address and telephone number
    of solicitor or party serving notice)
    TO (Name and address of solicitor or
    party receiving notice)

    Rule 55. Default; Default Judgment

    (a) Entering a Default.
    When a party against whom a judgment for affirmative relief
    is sought has failed to plead or otherwise defend, and that
    failure is shown by affidavit or otherwise, the clerk must
    enter the party's default.

    (b) Entering a Default Judgment.

    (1) By the Clerk.
    If the plaintiff's claim is for a sum certain or a sum that
    can be made certain by computation, the clerk - on the
    plaintiff's request, with an affidavit showing the amount
    due - must enter judgment for that amount and costs against
    a defendant who has been defaulted for not appearing and who
    is neither a minor nor an incompetent person.

    (2) By the Court.
    In all other cases, the party must apply to the court for a
    default judgment. A default judgment may be entered against
    a minor or incompetent person only if represented by a
    general guardian, conservator, or other like fiduciary who
    has appeared. If the party against whom a default judgment
    is sought has appeared personally or by a representative,
    that party or its representative must be served with written
    notice of the application at least 7 days before the
    hearing. The court may conduct hearings or make referrals -
    preserving any federal statutory right to a jury trial -
    when, to enter or effectuate judgment, it needs to:

    (A) conduct an accounting;
    (B) determine the amount of damages;
    (C) establish the truth of any allegation by evidence; or
    (D) investigate any other matter.
    (c) Setting Aside a Default or a Default Judgment.


    The court may set aside an entry of default for good cause,
    and it may set aside a default judgment under Rule 60(b)
    http://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/frcp/Rule55.htm#Rule60_b_
    .
    (d) Judgment Against the United States.

    A default judgment may be entered against the United States,
    its officers, or its agencies only if the claimant
    establishes a claim or right to relief by evidence that
    satisfies the court.

Topic: Whats going on in our children's schools?
    Max Kuzkin Jan 12 08:16PM -0800 ^

    My son came home today informing me that this private company will be coming
    into his school and feeding them lunch. Needless to say I have researched
    the company that is world wide and they started this around the same time
    the swine flu vaccines have came out they are providing integrated food to
    the children.

    Furthermore they want me to sign this form giving them permission to use my
    son's photo and or video any way they see fit for anything they want to do.

    This form scares me, it is in the format of a TRUST and that I Grant to them
    the authority to do what they want to do.

    It has never been an issue for the school to take my son's picture to use
    for school or local purposes however where did this private company come
    from including its successors that I would be granting permission to?

    I would like to get thoughts on it!

    I am thinking of revoking this trust and on that day they come in to the
    school picking up my son and taking him out to lunch...


    Thanks
    Katie
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Topic: Question on UCC-1
    Ayanna Camara Jan 12 09:34PM -0500 ^

    I wish to file a UCC-1 as part of my process to close out a mortgage
    rescission process. I have a MRC in place that was not responded to. As
    collateral on the UCC1 I will be putting the MRC, Property Legal
    Description, Deed and Note that has been AFV. For this type UCC-1, would it
    be correct to list the Mortgage Company as Debtor?

    Thanks for your assistance.

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Topic: Naming myself in Court
    Dan Ecklund Jan 12 06:06PM -0800 ^

    Gordon Hall suggests: I am here AS John Doe. or, I am here to
    represent John DOE. Or, I am here as authorized agent of John Doe. Or,
    in Admiralty, I am here by Special Appearance (which brings it into
    Admiralty) as Third Party Intervener to settle any and all matters
    regarding this case.

    Just repeat any or all of those until they give up and go away. They
    will threaten you, ask you directly "who are you? What is your name?"
    but just keep saying the above.

Topic: Judgement pending...Info please
    of the one sovereign sentient Jan 12 04:01PM -0800 ^

    get them to prove they followed proper procedure to the letter...which the probably did not....and then deafult them and lien them and the one signing the document for the judgement, maybe her house or car or otherwise...that should stop them using your exemption...got the same situation here....going to do the same through a notary
    jsut an opinion for entertainment purposes only...LOL

    ________________________________
    From: Caitibird
    Sent: Tue, January 12, 2010 6:13:17 PM
    Subject: Judgement pending...Info please

    Hi,
    There is a judgement pending against me that I realize I'm going to
    have to bite the bullet and pay. There is no way out at this stage.
    Too late and a dollar short at this point. Is it better to contact
    the collector (plaintiff) or attorney and offer payment before the
    judgement is granted? I am wondering if there is a real way to get a
    judgement off my credit report after it has been granted. I've read
    it stays on for over 7 years. And, If I send a validation of debt to
    the credit reporting agencies, they could easily get a copy of the
    judgement (which is a contract). I just want it to end and have as
    little damage as possible at this point. Any opinions would be
    appreciated.
    Cait
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    Max Hemmingway Jan 12 06:05PM -0800 ^

    Proper procedure to the letter is definitely one of the right ways to
    go. But you can't make them prove they did. You must prove they
    didn't.
    Is there a way out at this stage? Yes, there is. You need to respond
    to the summons and complaint and fight them to the bitter end which
    should be your finding violations of federal law and taking them to
    federal court where you stand an excellent chance of winning and
    making them forget about their judgment and pay you to go away and
    leave them alone. It isn't hard to do and just to prove that
    statement, more than 9,000 people have done just that in 2009 alone.

Topic: Returned answer on
    Max Kuzkin Jan 12 03:39PM -0800 ^

    What Max are you talking about?

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    Max Kuzkin Jan 12 03:40PM -0800 ^

    Which Max are you talking too?

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    Dan Ecklund Jan 12 05:51PM -0800 ^

    Yes, Tim Turner also describes this process, of going to court in
    Admiralty as a 3rd party intervener, there to settle the dispute
    between the plaintiff and your strawman. Since the claim has already
    been established by your process, as you said, you may simply present
    your paperwork, and the court serves to give the 3rd party intervener
    the judgment. Of course, you probably need to have already
    established your relationship to the strawman, and be able to document
    that for the admiralty court.

    Dan

    Dan, very well explained. CIC seminar speakers as well as Winston
    Shrout have related that the commercially-jammed-up-property-owner
    whom one has liened might summons the lienholder into court as a
    Defendant. Winston demonstrated how to turn oneself into 3rd party
    Plaintiff with a Counterclaim that basically states "default
    judgment's a done deal. im here for my check. I won. Administrative
    procedure has not bee exhausted by 3rd party defendant." One aspect of
    the commercially-jammed-up-property-owner
    bringing the case to court for relief is that the whole process is
    placed in the public record by Mr.Mrs Jammed Up. Thank you for
    explaining the whole process very well. :) kathy

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